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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    You said:



    I don't know what you're advocating for, to be honest. You say that Americans are being coerced out of their tax dollars for services that you admit they use.
    So now you're finally being honest, good to see. But I wonder about that when you follow up with a statement out of context. Was that purposeful or not?
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Well, yeah...all that is more of the "I was for/against it but now I'm against/for it" that we get from politicians. But the real reason I presented that link was to clear up exactly where this budget bill is coming from. It has originated in the House...as it should. And, now that the House has passed it, it goes to the Senate.
    Well, did the rider for campaign donations get put on in the House or Senate. Which again all should know that politicians name.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So now you're finally being honest, good to see.
    I was always honest. I was following your thought to its natural conclusion.

    But I wonder about that when you follow up with a statement out of context. Was that purposeful or not?
    How is my statement out of context? Perhaps if you articulated your points better, I wouldn't be left scratching my head in confusion.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Curious why you find it odd that he supports it? I don't see that he has any choice.

    Nancy Pelosi is "disappointed" in Obama. I wonder how much he really cares about that.

    Speaking of Pelosi, her drama was a sight to behold. "Blackmail". Gotta love her.
    He isn't one to give in to anything.
    for 6 years he has done nothing but stamp his feet and cry when he can't get his way.

    Maybe he realizes that he is fighting a losing battle at this point. next year is going to go even worse for him.
    better try and build some credit now for the next 2 years.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah it passed, but I did post up the Tea party members that didn't sign on. 16 of them. Jordan kept his word.
    yeah I know the immigration thing. but it is smart. they only funded HLS till February when they will have full control of the senate and the house.
    they will be in a stronger position kill the immigration problem that Obama has caused.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I was always honest. I was following your thought to its natural conclusion.



    How is my statement out of context? Perhaps if you articulated your points better, I wouldn't be left scratching my head in confusion.
    The natural conclusion is that we as conservative can't always have the govt we want, so we deal with things as they are while trying to introduce conservative principles into future attempts to reign in the growth of govt. If I'm forced to pay for something, I still have the right to use what I paid for. That doesn't make me a hypocrite, it just makes you a disingenuous debater.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    He isn't one to give in to anything.
    for 6 years he has done nothing but stamp his feet and cry when he can't get his way.

    Maybe he realizes that he is fighting a losing battle at this point. next year is going to go even worse for him.
    better try and build some credit now for the next 2 years.
    Based on the behavior of the Dems since election night, I think Obama thinks his only allies for the next 2 years are the Republicans.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Man o man are the Dems ever grooming Liz for a 2016 run or what.

    Let's see ... the last time they pumped up a one-dimensional far left one term Senator like this it was successful thanks to various factors ... unfortunately, Presidential concern for the Country wasn't one of them.

    I'm not sure Liz is going to overcome what the last one like her is doing.

    No, she's best left in Massachusetts where she can do the least harm.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The natural conclusion is that we as conservative can't always have the govt we want, so we deal with things as they are while trying to introduce conservative principles into future attempts to reign in the growth of govt. If I'm forced to pay for something, I still have the right to use what I paid for. That doesn't make me a hypocrite, it just makes you a disingenuous debater.
    How am I being disingenuous? This conversation started when I pointed out that Obama was talking about how businesses benefit from collective problem solving and government investment. Which is 100% factual. You then started swearing at me and telling me I didn't understand conservatism.

    Either the services and infrastructure provided by government are useful businesses or they're not. Either your tax dollars are going towards services that you happily use, or they're being wasted. You can't have it both ways.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    yeah I know the immigration thing. but it is smart. they only funded HLS till February when they will have full control of the senate and the house.
    they will be in a stronger position kill the immigration problem that Obama has caused.
    I agree with that part of it. I don't care for the rider attached with the campaign donations being accepted. Plus we want that politician's name.

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