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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    if dems kill the bill more so in the senate then the government shuts down.
    they can't blame republicans.

    I am eh on the sections in question.

    dodd/frank has not done what it was suppose to do and has probably created more issues than what it solved.
    that is what happens when you issue 400 new regulations.

    I honestly think banking / investment banking should be kept separated.
    neither the twain should met and taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook for bad businesses investments.

    also the bill isn't getting rid of all regulations on default swaps but expanding the ones that can be used.

    a large part of the lack of recovery was that lending and business investment was stifled under this administration.
    without the outflow of capital companies had a hard time expanding and generating revenue.

    What’s in the spending bill? We skim it so you don’t have to - The Washington Post

    here is a list of all the things in the budget.

    I really like the one that puts a clamp on the EPA clean water act over-reach.
    Last edited by ludin; 12-11-14 at 12:51 PM.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    She's a native American...lol
    Right, haha, the Indian thing. Lulz.

    You guys have nothing substantive against her.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    wall street, in backroom negotiations, tells our lawmakers to again allow the taxpayers to underwrite the gamble with derivatives
    a resumption of privatizing the potentially massive profits and socializing the massive potential losses
    this illustrates why Elizabeth Warren (and Bernie Sanders) should be the on democratic ticket in 2016
    otherwise we will continue to have the best government money can buy
    We have the best government money can buy today. Why would that change? Do you really think Warren or Sanders would pass up tens of millions of dollars from Wall Street Firms to finance their campaign for president? There would be a wink and an nod agreement that either on could continue their feisty rhetoric against Wall Street while doing nothing but helping those who do the financing. That is exactly what we have today.

    I am sure neither wants to see a 100 million in contributions, all go to their opponent if it is deemed they meant what they say. As the old saying goes, just watch the money. Those on Wall Street are very smart, not dummies and they will not make an investment in any political campaign unless they view that investment will provide a sound return.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Such as?
    "I'm an indian", "The subprime morthages targetted black folks". There's two.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    "I'm an indian", "The subprime morthages targetted black folks". There's two.
    No, that's one, because the "Indian" idiocy is just conservative whackadoodle hackery, right up there with screaming "Benghazi!" or "You didn't build that!" with zero understanding of what the discussion is about, so the "Indian thing" is dismissed. It's a particularly low hanging fruit for partisan right wing retards.

    As for the subprime mortage targeting minorities, how was that a lie?

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Such as?
    I haven't seen any proof the bill says all that yet.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    No, that's one, because the "Indian" idiocy is just conservative whackadoodle hackery, right up there with screaming "Benghazi!" or "You didn't build that!" with zero understanding of what the discussion is about, so the "Indian thing" is dismissed. It's a particularly low hanging fruit for partisan right wing retards.

    As for the subprime mortage targeting minorities, how was that a lie?
    Are you serious? How do you expect to be taken seriously?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Someone had a suggestion last week, that maybe politicians should have to ware body cameras,
    with the content available for public viewing.
    If it is good for the cops, why not the politicians?
    why not all citizens, if you suspect someone of a crime you can just check their body cam to see if they did it

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Are you serious? How do you expect to be taken seriously?
    Well, tell us about the quote and how it's a lie. Before I discuss this further with you I want to know if you have an understanding of the topic or if you're just lobbing out bumper sticker phrases like "You didn't build that!" or "What difference does it make!"

    And anybody who brings up the Native American thing has already ceded the right to be taken seriously.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    if dems kill the bill more so in the senate then the government shuts down.
    they can't blame republicans.

    I am eh on the sections in question.

    dodd/frank has not done what it was suppose to do and has probably created more issues than what it solved.
    that is what happens when you issue 400 new regulations.
    Another failed excessively, and needless complex piece of exponentially government growing POS legislation.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    I honestly think banking / investment banking should be kept separated.
    neither the twain should met and taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook for bad businesses investments.
    Exactly. All that'd have to be done would be to bring back the Glass-Steagall act with a bit of freshening up.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    also the bill isn't getting rid of all regulations on default swaps but expanding the ones that can be used.

    a large part of the lack of recovery was that lending and business investment was stifled under this administration.
    without the outflow of capital companies had a hard time expanding and generating revenue.

    Whatís in the spending bill? We skim it so you donít have to - The Washington Post

    here is a list of all the things in the budget.

    I really like the one that puts a clamp on the EPA clean water act over-reach.
    Yup. That too is stifling the economy and the recovery, and will continue to do so until they are repealed / lifted, and we've got all this government debt and ObamaCare bills that we have to pay for. Not time to be stifling the economy. It needs to be on turbo chargers.
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