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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Well, tell us about the quote and how it's a lie. Before I discuss this further with you I want to know if you have an understanding of the topic or if you're just lobbing out bumper sticker phrases like "You didn't build that!" or "What difference does it make!"

    And anybody who brings up the Native American thing has already ceded the right to be taken seriously.
    Nope, just like the far left does, we will hammer her with that blatant lie.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    That is what your post deserved. You get what you give.
    Wow, 20 minutes later and you can't refute a single thing yet, even though my post about Warren got you all worked up to the point that you sniped at me?

    Do tell, what was the "nonsensical crap" that you referred to?

    Was she not a bankruptcy attorney?
    What do you think happens to the dollars the creditors charge off?
    What do you know about the banking regulations and how they impact the community banks and credit unions, and what specifically was incorrect about what I said?

    I have to go but I'll check back later after you've had a chance to Google.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Which part of my post was untrue, and got you so upset personally?

    Please refute my post with specifics.
    You want me to get specific when you spouted nothing but generalities and biased opinion? You need to seriously get off your high horse.

    I am aware of her history. When she started practicing law, it was he job to go after those "cheats." It was only though going over thousands of cases, she changed her views. She saw for herself that in many cases, these people were honest people who fell on hard times:

    In 1987, Warren began teaching at the University of Pennsylvania Law School. In 1995, she moved to Harvard. In “The Fragile Middle Class: Americans in Debt,” published by Yale in 2000, Sullivan, Warren, and Westbrook reported the results of a follow-up study of another twenty-four hundred bankruptcy filings, these from 1991. Even more Americans were drowning in debt. Between 1979 and 1997, the number of personal-bankruptcy filings rose by four hundred per cent.

    In an age of debt, an unexpected loss can drive almost anyone to ruin. “Divorce, an unhappy second marriage, a serious illness, no job,” Warren writes. “A turn here, a turn there, and my life might have been very different, too.”
    But it goes much deeper.

    Warren believes that the two-income family has contributed to the bankruptcy rate. “For middle-class families, the most important part of the safety net for generations has been the stay-at-home mother,” Warren and her daughter, Amelia Warren Tyagi, wrote in “The Two-Income Trap: Why Middle-Class Mothers and Fathers Are Going Broke” (2003), a book aimed at a wider audience than Warren’s earlier, academic work. (“Mom, you are boring,” Tyagi told Warren. “Collaborating with my daughter is not for sissies,” Warren says.) It used to be that when a middle-class family was faced with a financial crisis the woman in the house could get a job, to tide things over, which is what happened when Warren’s father had a heart attack and her mother got a job at Sears. This cushion doesn’t exist in the two-income family, which, in its short history—it has its origins, as a middle-class phenomenon, in the nineteen-seventies—has also taken on a great deal more housing debt. The 1974 Equal Credit Opportunity Act required lenders to count a wife’s income when evaluating borrowers; the deregulation of the mortgage lending industry began in 1980. With two wage earners and low down payments, middle-class families took on bigger mortgages and contributed to an increase in the cost of housing, especially when families with children paid a premium for property in school districts with high test scores. Financial crisis, for a two-income family, usually means having to live, quite suddenly, on one income. In these straits, families with children tend to totter on the edge of ruin. “Having a child is now the single best predictor that a woman will end up in financial collapse,” Warren and Tyagi reported. Between 1981 and 2001, the number of women filing for
    So just try to see things in more grey. It will do you some good.
    “No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it,” Trump said... “‘Is everyone OK’? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    that is where it is wrong. it doesn't eliminate it at all. please read the link I posted it doesn't say what she thinks it say.
    all it does is include a few other derivatives that they can't do and still excludes others.

    it doesn't eliminate all of it. she is wrong and so is her hyperbole.
    I read your link. It says what she said. Watch the vid I posted and see for yourself.
    “No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it,” Trump said... “‘Is everyone OK’? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    ... say something even a little critical about Liz and it gets a lot of spittle flying from her acolytes.
    I have issues with partisanship and outright lies.
    “No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it,” Trump said... “‘Is everyone OK’? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Elizabeth Warren is to the left what Sarah Palin is to the right.

    Except significantly less attractive...

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you educate us
    tell us who

    If it were possible I would

    You still think the GSEs were helpless victims amd they had nothing to do with the Subprime mortgage crisis.

    There's nothing I can do for you.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Either way, banks shouldn't be prohibited from trading swaps.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nope, just like the far left does, we will hammer her with that blatant lie.
    So you admit you don't know anything about the subprime loan quote of hers. Now please, wow us with your knowledge of this so-called lie regarding the manufactured Native American story.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren to Dems: Kill the bill

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Another failed excessively, and needless complex piece of exponentially government growing POS legislation.



    Exactly. All that'd have to be done would be to bring back the Glass-Steagall act with a bit of freshening up.



    Yup. That too is stifling the economy and the recovery, and will continue to do so until they are repealed / lifted, and we've got all this government debt and ObamaCare bills that we have to pay for. Not time to be stifling the economy. It needs to be on turbo chargers.

    Greetings, Erik.

    There will be no funding for Common Core, which parents and teachers both dislike, no new money for Obamacare, which the majority of citizens dislike, and we can still buy incandescent light bulbs which is great. Anyone trying to read with the sickly light emitted by the new bulbs should give thanks for that! There are some things I question, like giving millions to the Central American countries that dumped 50,000 of their children on us to babysit, at a cost of hundreds of millions of dollars a year - it seems they should be reimbursing us! - but I'll wait to see what happens. The scary part to me was the $1.1 trillion dollar budget amount! Why are we acting like we have the money to do this? : Doesn't an $18 trillion dollar, and climbing by $10 million dollars a minute, debt bother anybody in DC?

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