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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

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    Yes, I have always looked to the US Government for moral guidance. I guess you and I are the same that way, eh?
    The thread is about prosecutions last time I looked.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The thread is about prosecutions last time I looked.
    And the moral guidance, ethical guidance, legal guidance as to when prosecutions are brought and when they are not.

    The way I'm reading your posts, you support the practice of NOT prosecuting torturers. Am I misreading you?

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    And the moral guidance, ethical guidance, legal guidance as to when prosecutions are brought and when they are not.

    The way I'm reading your posts, you support the practice of NOT prosecuting torturers. Am I misreading you?
    I'm saying it's not going to happen, not now or later. The Justice Dept okayed it, which means they are covered. I'm not judging either way, just saying it ain't gonna happen.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Maybe they could have used leeches?
    Maybe they could have used ropes and a gallows, and sent the bastards to Hell like they deserved.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    And the moral guidance, ethical guidance, legal guidance as to when prosecutions are brought and when they are not.

    The way I'm reading your posts, you support the practice of NOT prosecuting torturers. Am I misreading you?

    Torture is a crime. If you already knew a person had committed it--i.e. was a "torturer"--what need would there be to prosecute him? No one has shown probable cause to believe that even one American ever engaged in torture. Dianne Feinstein's voluminous collection of fish wrap proves not one damn thing, except that she and people like her place their personal interests above their country's.

    The sad fact is that far too much space is now being taken up in this once-great country by millions of half-educated people who resent it and are glad to carry water for its jihadist enemies. They serve as a fifth column for the likes of the vermin who just murdered a dozen innocent people in Paris and then shouted "Allahu akbar!" in the streets. Here's hoping the French authorities catch those bastards, force them to give up any confederates using whatever means necessary, and then try them for murder. Too bad they don't still have the guillotine.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'm saying it's not going to happen, not now or later. The Justice Dept okayed it, which means they are covered. I'm not judging either way, just saying it ain't gonna happen.
    Heck, I knew that already. We certainly agree that the federal government has covered up the crimes by refusing to even talk about them, much less prosecute them. Absolutely ain't gonna happen, any more than it is going to open the JFK files or MLK files. Got it!

    Sorry, I thought we were talking what is right v. what is wrong. Responsible governance and all that sort of pap, you know?

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Torture is a crime. If you already knew a person had committed it--i.e. was a "torturer"--what need would there be to prosecute him? No one has shown probable cause to believe that even one American ever engaged in torture. Dianne Feinstein's voluminous collection of fish wrap proves not one damn thing, except that she and people like her place their personal interests above their country's.

    The sad fact is that far too much space is now being taken up in this once-great country by millions of half-educated people who resent it and are glad to carry water for its jihadist enemies. They serve as a fifth column for the likes of the vermin who just murdered a dozen innocent people in Paris and then shouted "Allahu akbar!" in the streets. Here's hoping the French authorities catch those bastards, force them to give up any confederates using whatever means necessary, and then try them for murder. Too bad they don't still have the guillotine.
    Check your match--I think the flame (and light) have been smothered by lack of perspective.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Check your match--I think the flame (and light) have been smothered by lack of perspective.
    If you have an argument, make it.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Emotional childlike argument noted.
    Do you think if you break a leg in prison then the prison guards hold you down and amputate you, would that be torture or a standard medical procedure

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Yes, I have always looked to the US Government for moral guidance. I guess you and I are the same that way, eh?
    What really pisses me off about these statists that claim conservative is that governmental atrocities are defended by them simply for the fact that it was under Bush. Could you imagine what would happen if Obama was caught torturing people?

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