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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

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    You do like going in circles I see.
    You asked me a question. I answered it. It was used for feeding.
    " . It was identified as a means of “behavior control” by CIA medical officers"

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You do like going in circles I see.
    You asked me a question. I answered it. It was used for feeding.
    Was it used for feeding solely or as a means to humiliate people

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

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    " . It was identified as a means of “behavior control” by CIA medical officers"
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    Was it used for feeding solely or as a means to humiliate people

    iLOL That was secondary to it's intended purpose.

    “[W]hile IV infusion is safe and effective, we were impressed with the ancillary effectiveness of rectal infusion on ending the water refusal in a similar case.”

    What is reveals is that that was a secondary (ancillary) benefit. No one wanted to refuse hydration less they be force-fed that way.

    You do understand the difference between primary (your question) reason (to feed), and ancillary benefits right?
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    iLOL That was secondary to it's intended purpose.

    “[W]hile IV infusion is safe and effective, we were impressed with the ancillary effectiveness of rectal infusion on ending the water refusal in a similar case.”

    What is reveals is that that was a secondary (ancillary) benefit. No one wanted to refuse hydration less they be force-fed that way.

    You do understand the difference between primary (your question) reason (to feed), and ancillary benefits right?
    You're quote literally means is that iv fluid drips hydrated people safer they found that using rectel feeding was a means of again behavior control to try to humiliate people into complying with them. Should we rectal feed hospital patients or use an iv

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    iLOL That was secondary to it's intended purpose.

    “[W]hile IV infusion is safe and effective, we were impressed with the ancillary effectiveness of rectal infusion on ending the water refusal in a similar case.”

    What is reveals is that that was a secondary (ancillary) benefit. No one wanted to refuse hydration less they be force-fed that way.

    You do understand the difference between primary (your question) reason (to feed), and ancillary benefits right?
    an·cil·lar·y
    ˈansəˌlerē/Submit
    adjective
    1.
    providing necessary support to the primary activities or operation of an organization, institution, industry, or system.

    What was the primary objective? Was it behavior control?

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

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    an·cil·lar·y
    ˈansəˌlerē/Submit
    adjective
    1.
    providing necessary support to the primary activities or operation of an organization, institution, industry, or system.

    What was the primary objective? Was it behavior control?
    You have already been given the answer.
    It was for feeding/hydration purposes and had a secondary effect to it's main purpose.


    an·cil·lar·y

    adj.
    1. Of secondary importance; subordinate: "For Degas, sculpture was never more than ancillary to his painting" (Herbert Read).
    2. Auxiliary or accessory: an ancillary pump.
    n. pl. an·cil·lar·ies
    1. Something that is subordinate or accessory to something else: a tripod, battery charger, and other camera ancillaries.
    2. A person working in a supportive or subordinate role: school ancillaries who look after children who become sick.
    [From Latin ancilla, maidservant, feminine diminutive of anculus, servant; see kwel-1 in Indo-European roots.]


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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    You're quote literally means is that iv fluid drips hydrated people safer they found that using rectel feeding was a means of again behavior control to try to humiliate people into complying with them. Should we rectal feed hospital patients or use an iv

    Just stop with the spin. It does not say safer.
    They found rectal feeding works and found a secondary benefit to doing it.


    And again, like waterboarding, it was limited in use.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You have already been given the answer.
    It was for feeding/hydration purposes and had a secondary effect to it's main purpose.


    an·cil·lar·y

    adj.
    1. Of secondary importance; subordinate: "For Degas, sculpture was never more than ancillary to his painting" (Herbert Read).
    2. Auxiliary or accessory: an ancillary pump.
    n. pl. an·cil·lar·ies
    1. Something that is subordinate or accessory to something else: a tripod, battery charger, and other camera ancillaries.
    2. A person working in a supportive or subordinate role: school ancillaries who look after children who become sick.
    [From Latin ancilla, maidservant, feminine diminutive of anculus, servant; see kwel-1 in Indo-European roots.]


    American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition. Copyright © 2011 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.

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    Just stop with the spin. It does not say safer.
    They found rectal feeding works and found a secondary benefit to doing it.


    And again, like waterboarding, it was limited in use.
    What was the secondary motive

    Would you be in favor of using rectal feeding in hospitals instead of an iv yes or no don't ignore the question

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    What was the secondary motive
    And again. You are going in circles.
    You already know that it was used for feeding, and they found that it had a secondary benefit.
    Last edited by Excon; 01-07-15 at 01:15 AM.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    ANd again. You are going in cirlces.
    You already know that it was used for feeding, and they found that it had a secondary benefit.
    Which was what

    And should we use rectal feeding in hospitals instead of iv drips?

    Should I use rectal feeding on you because you're acting like a small child refusing to eat their vegetables at night?

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Which was what

    And around and around we go.
    And again. You are going in circles.
    You already know that it was used for feeding, and they found that it had a secondary benefit.
    “The law is reason, free from passion.”
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