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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Do you defend the ideas that the United States should be legally allowed to subject people to things like waterboarding and rectal feeding as a means of interrogation?

    Our should we as citizens be allowed to have restrictions on the agencies that are capable of this kind of practice.
    First of all, get your facts straight. Rectal feeding was not done for interrogation purposes.

    As for water boarding, I am fine with it's limited use as was done.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    First of all, get your facts straight. Rectal feeding was not done for interrogation purposes.

    As for water boarding, I am fine with it's limited use as was done.
    Then what was rectal feeding used for?

    Should we have restrictions against the intelligence community for use of waterboArding against U.S. citizens yes or no

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Then what was rectal feeding used for?
    Did you have problem reading the word "feeding" as in forced feeding?
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Did you have problem reading the word "feeding" as in forced feeding?
    Did you have a Problem answering the question like an aCtual adult?

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That post shows a lot of ignorance, I never argued do nothing, I argue do something that works. All the literature on torture says it doesn't work. And we have verifiable evidence of intel we got and used that was false, and that is undisputed. You can't offer anything as undisputed and verifiable.

    And torturing innocent people is also not going to help anyone's family. In fact, all of this likely puts them more at risk. It is not human nature to ignore these wrongs. Some will join the fight against us just to avenge those wrongs. And I speak of people who would not have done so without it.

    This type of excuse you make above for evil doesn't hold up. It doesn't excuse torture. As for expertise, there are plenty who side with me.

    Here are a couple:

    Moreover, Zimbardo told LiveScience that torture is not an effective way to gather intelligence. Compared with police settings, in which detectives build social rapport and often get confessions without physical force, secret interrogation squads can alienate prisoners and elicit unreliable information, he said.

    (For example, a Libyan detainee linked to al-Qaida falsely revealed under torture that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq — a key reason for the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Allen said.)

    Study: U.S. Torture Techniques Unethical, Ineffective

    As early as the third century A.D., the great Roman Jurist Ulpian noted that information obtained through torture was not to be trusted because some people are “so susceptible to pain that they will tell any lie rather than suffer it” (Peters, 1996). This warning about the unreliability of information extracted through the use of torture has echoed across the centuries. As one CIA operative who participated in torture during the Vietnam War put it, “We had people who were willing to confess to anything if we would just stop torturing them” (Andersen, 2004, p. 3). Indeed, the Army Field Manual explains that strategically useful information is best obtained from prisoners who are treated humanely, and that information obtained through torture has produced faulty intelligence (Leahy, 2005).

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    Although torture does not produce reliable information, it may persist because it satisfies psychological needs in times of stress. Specifically, it counters a sense of desperation, reassures interrogators that they are in control, and bestows a feeling of empowerment, at least in the enclosed world of the interrogation room (Carlsmith & Sood, 2009). As one scholar put it, “Even though torture is not, on balance, effective or rational, it persists through its deep psychological appeal, to the powerful and the powerless alike, in times of crisis” (McCoy, 2006, p. 207).

    http://www.cgu.edu/pdffiles/sbos/cos...errogation.pdf
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Did you have a Problem answering the question like an aCtual adult?
    I did answer it like an adult.
    Did you have problem reading the word "feeding" as in forced feeding?

    So do you want to keep going in circles like this?
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I did answer it like an adult.
    Did you have problem reading the word "feeding" as in forced feeding?

    So do you want to keep going in circles like this?
    http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/201...treatment.html

    What was it used for?

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I did answer it like an adult.
    Did you have problem reading the word "feeding" as in forced feeding?

    So do you want to keep going in circles like this?
    Where Rectal Feeding Came From and How the CIA Used It - Bloomberg

    What was it used for?
    I see you want to keep going in circles huh.
    It was used for feeding.
    Do you really not get that?
    Last edited by Excon; 01-07-15 at 12:10 AM.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    UI see you want to keep going in circles huh.
    It was used for feeding.
    Do you really not get that?
    Do you know how to read or did you ignore the article

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Do you know how to read or did you ignore the article
    You do like going in circles I see.
    You asked me a question. I answered it. It was used for feeding.
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