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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Our troops? What do you mean? You want the people committing a crime to sue the government for their committing a crime?
    Our military is subjected to waterboarding as part of survival training so are you telling me that our military is using illegal techniques on our own troops? How about you answering the question what would you condone to save your wife, kids, or parents?

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

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    My limit is to adhere to international law when it comes to foreign countries and the military in those countries, not terrorists. These people are animals and need to be treated as animals and no you didn't answer the question. What techniques would you condone to save a family member including your wife?
    When the US prosecuted American soldiers for waterboarding in VN, they did it under US law.

    There are effective techniques. You can look them up. What we know about torture is that it is ineffective and wastes time. Therefore even less effective in ticking bomb type fictions.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Our military is subjected to waterboarding as part of survival training so are you telling me that our military is using illegal techniques on our own troops? How about you answering the question what would you condone to save your wife, kids, or parents?
    I've addressed that before. They were not subjected to the same thing. So, you need to quit pretending they were.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    When the US prosecuted American soldiers for waterboarding in VN, they did it under US law.

    There are effective techniques. You can look them up. What we know about torture is that it is ineffective and wastes time. Therefore even less effective in ticking bomb type fictions.
    That is your opinion, John Brennan, a liberal in Obama's Administration disagrees with you as does the former directors of the CIA including Clinton's in George Tenet

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I've addressed that before. They were not subjected to the same thing. So, you need to quit pretending they were.
    waterboarding does not leave physical or psychological damage and I know you are doing nothing but diverting from answering the question. What actions would you authorize to save your wife, kids, or parents?

    I couldn't care less what we do with people who burn innocent people alive, authorize and organize flying airplanes into buildings, would detonate a nuclear device in your home town. Guess that is the difference between logic and common sense and you

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    "UN demands prosecutions for US torture"

    *As an American, reads the headline*

    Well... **** the UN, **** those officials, and **** the simple idea of the UN's existence.

    I mean, look at China and Russia, members of the UN security council. One censors all free speech to the point of censoring the internet while the other has street vigilantes out and about murdering gay people like dogs.

    At least enhanced interrogation has a use, and besides, **** the UN.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Our military is subjected to waterboarding as part of survival training so are you telling me that our military is using illegal techniques on our own troops? How about you answering the question what would you condone to save your wife, kids, or parents?
    Utter nonsense. Troops playing at waterboarding is nothing like the real thing. That would require their being captured by an immoral enemy, with no hope of rescue, who don't care if you live or die. Even survival trainers aren't that bad.
    Torture produces the answer that your victim believes you want to hear. Kind of like Limbaugh.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Utter nonsense. Troops playing at waterboarding is nothing like the real thing. That would require their being captured by an immoral enemy, with no hope of rescue, who don't care if you live or die. Even survival trainers aren't that bad.
    Torture produces the answer that your victim believes you want to hear. Kind of like Limbaugh.
    You know who Gruber was talking about when he talked about the ignorance of the American electorate? You people are so nave and poorly informed it is staggering. I am sick and tired of defending our military who has given over 320 million Americans the right to make a fool of yourself and demonize them at every turn and it was a military that saved your ass in WWII.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

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    You know who Gruber was talking about when he talked about the ignorance of the American electorate? You people are so nave and poorly informed it is staggering. I am sick and tired of defending our military who has given over 320 million Americans the right to make a fool of yourself and demonize them at every turn and it was a military that saved your ass in WWII.
    You obviously believe you know where to insert your bloodied flag for best effect. You're wrong again.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    You obviously believe you know where to insert your bloodied flag for best effect. You're wrong again.
    Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong but when wrong I admit it, unlike people like you. Tell me what law our military violated that you want to blame them for? Tell me who these people are that underwent what you called torture? Seems that people like you have no problem when Clinton defined "is" but have a problem when even your own group like Brennan define torture. It really is too bad that our military wouldn't pick and choose the British to actually save.

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