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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They tortured. What they did is by definition torture. You read that in the links above. It's not feelings. It's measuring actions against codified law.
    The law disagrees, the lawyers disagree and the DOJ disagrees. You therefore have nothing to go on but your feelings, and immature feelings at that.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

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    Have you ever had to make a decision that required legal advice? Bush got the legal advice and took action. You don't like the action and in this country you are innocent until proven guilty not vice versa. You can indict a ham sandwich or bring any kind of suit you want. The outcome however is what matters and Democrats let the issue slide something you refuse to accept. You can believe what you want until hell freezes over but that is meaningless.
    I've never been president, but I've made decisions. And as medic and paramedic, I've made life and death decisions. If I'm educated, and know torture is ineffective, which I am and do, then there is no logical reason to break the law to do it. And no, Bush was told, someone linked it somewhere, that torture was ineffective. He chose to ignore the advice.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The law disagrees, the lawyers disagree and the DOJ disagrees. You therefore have nothing to go on but your feelings, and immature feelings at that.
    No, white house council disagrees. That's not the same as the law. And they had to torture language to start with, trying to make torture seem like something else. So, the above attempt at avoidance aside, you have not addressed the law.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I've never been president, but I've made decisions. And as medic and paramedic, I've made life and death decisions. If I'm educated, and know torture is ineffective, which I am and do, then there is no logical reason to break the law to do it. And no, Bush was told, someone linked it somewhere, that torture was ineffective. He chose to ignore the advice.
    Still waiting for the law that was broken when using waterboarding on terrorists? You definition of torture is your opinion. As I have stated before since Clinton argued the definition of "is" I am arguing that waterboarding isn't torture. Seems a lot of people agree with me including the following

    Waterboarding Is Not Torture by Joseph Farah on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

    You people have really gone off the deep end. Wonder what actions you would have authorized if a terrorist knew the time and place of a bomb in your home town and in your neighborhood. You seem afraid to answer the question.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Still waiting for the law that was broken when using waterboarding on terrorists? You definition of torture is your opinion. As I have stated before since Clinton argued the definition of "is" I am arguing that waterboarding isn't torture. Seems a lot of people agree with me including the following

    Waterboarding Is Not Torture by Joseph Farah on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

    You people have really gone off the deep end. Wonder what actions you would have authorized if a terrorist knew the time and place of a bomb in your home town and in your neighborhood. You seem afraid to answer the question.
    Waterboarding isn't the only issue. Read this:

    Why Sleep Deprivation Is Torture | Psychology Today

    However, no matter who you quote, we've prosecuted both foreigners and American soldiers for waterwaterboardning in the past. However, if it's quoting folks you want:

    . . . . McCain said he was “Very disappointed by statements at SC GOP debate supporting waterboarding. Waterboarding is torture.”

    McCain: "Waterboarding is Torture" | Care2 Causes

    But then again, he's merely a veteran who has been tortured. Surely not anything republicans would care about. Let's try someone else:

    “It was well said—by Jean Tarrou in The Plague, I think—that attendance at lectures in an unknown language will help to hone one's awareness of the exceedingly slow passage of time. I once had the experience of being 'waterboarded' and can now dimly appreciate how much every second counts in the experience of the torture victim, forced to go on enduring what is unendurable.”
    ― Christopher Hitchens, Hitch-22: A Memoir

    Quotes About Waterboarding (6 quotes)

    There's just no doubt in my mind - under any set of rules - water boarding is torture. -- Tom Ridge

    Torture Quotes Page 4 - BrainyQuote

    And of course there are studies and the like that support me as well:

    http://www.cgu.edu/pdffiles/sbos/cos...errogation.pdf

    Is Waterboarding Torture? | waterboarding.org

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Blah, blah, --my poor delicate psyche has been damaged--weep for me! Those jihadists bastards are damned lucky they got off as easy as they did. They should have been sent to hell a long time ago, at the end of a rope.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Blah, blah, --my poor delicate psyche has been damaged--weep for me! Those jihadists bastards are damned lucky they got off as easy as they did. They should have been sent to hell a long time ago, at the end of a rope.
    Again, we did this on 26 innocent people, not Jihadist. One, maybe two, died. So, what you support is doing this to innocent people.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, we did this on 26 innocent people, not Jihadist. One, maybe two, died. So, what you support is doing this to innocent people.
    Prove it. The SOB's were guilty as sin, and to hell with them. Good riddance.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Prove it. The SOB's were guilty as sin, and to hell with them. Good riddance.
    Prove what? The report is there for all to read. 26 innocent people.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Prove what? The report is there for all to read. 26 innocent people.
    The report by Democrats which spent millions and didn't even do a proper investigation? And you believe it???

    You can really fool some of the people all of the time!!

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