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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I wonder if Pasch would like to put Obama in Gitmo for his drone strikes.
    Not to mention, the torture program didn't end with Obama's election.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The guy in charge of the program came on TV and said a grand total of 3 people were waterboarded. I think the people that did this really thought they had to get the information, because they thought al Qaeda was going to attack and/or they were trying to find OBL. Were they not following orders that were deemed legal by the Justice Dept?
    Mornin' American. That's why I asked what happened to Holders detailed and microscopic investigation into the matter.

    Do you think the leftists here will answer that question or run from it? You know.....the one with torturing a terrorist to save many lives? I wonder how many would torture but are afraid to say so.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    I'm sorry but I just can't elevate the act of waterboarding to "crimes against humanity" status.
    I'm sorry you can't. American judges sentenced Japanese soldiers to death and long prison sentences for waterboarding American soldiers.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin JMac. Exactly, tell them to walk the walk first before trying to practice what they don't preach to all those out there that do worse than any Western Nations.

    Then if they say anything back.....tell them to STFU!
    Mornin' MMC... If anyone wants to know what torture is, it's sitting here waiting on this load...lol
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0627 View Post
    I'm sorry you can't. American judges sentenced Japanese soldiers to death and long prison sentences for waterboarding American soldiers.
    Sorry Bob, different situation all together.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Not to mention, the torture program didn't end with Obama's election.
    I point missed by plenty of people, good call apdst.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' American. That's why I asked what happened to Holders detailed and microscopic investigation into the matter.

    Do you think the leftists here will answer that question or run from it? You know.....the one with torturing a terrorist to save many lives? I wonder how many would torture but are afraid to say so.
    I give some credit to the Obama admin for not pursuing any of this. It would undermine the Justice Department, and would be very difficult to get opinions from their attorneys in the future. Attorneys usually don't get prosecuted for rendering opinions, but I suppose they could get disbarred for incompentence. I think that's why no legal actions will be sought.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Nailed it!

    Quote Originally Posted by blue_state View Post
    i wouldn't be surprised if we get another nasty letter from the un about this. Russia has been using the un to throw daggers at us daily. I expect another well drafted letter about our human rights violations. It should spark another fun thread of who needs the un anyways.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    I'm sorry but I just can't elevate the act of waterboarding to "crimes against humanity" status.
    All I know is there are a lot of Yizidi women and young girls in Syria who wake up every day to endless rapes, maiming and disfigurement thanking their lucky stars they didn't get water up their nose.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0627 View Post
    All senior U.S. officials and CIA agents who authorized or carried out torture like waterboarding as part of former President George W. Bush's national security policy must be prosecuted, top U.N. officials said Wednesday.

    It's not clear, however, how human rights officials think these prosecutions will take place, since the Justice Department has declined to prosecute and the U.S. is not a member of the International Criminal Court.

    Zeid Raad al-Hussein, the U.N. high commissioner for human rights, said it's "crystal clear" under international law that the United States, which ratified the U.N. Convention Against Torture in 1994, now has an obligation to ensure accountability.

    "In all countries, if someone commits murder, they are prosecuted and jailed. If they commit rape or armed robbery, they are prosecuted and jailed. If they order, enable or commit torture ? recognized as a serious international crime ? they cannot simply be granted impunity because of political expediency," he said.

    U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon hopes the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee report on the CIA's harsh interrogation techniques at secret overseas facilities is the "start of a process" toward prosecutions, because the "prohibition against torture is absolute," Ban's spokesman said.

    Ben Emmerson, the U.N.'s special rapporteur on counterterrorism and human rights, said the report released Tuesday shows "there was a clear policy orchestrated at a high level within the Bush administration, which allowed (it) to commit systematic crimes and gross violations of international human rights law."

    He said international law prohibits granting immunity to public officials who allow the use of torture, and this applies not just to the actual perpetrators but also to those who plan and authorize torture.

    UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture - ABC News

    The only CIA agent who has been jailed to date for anything to do with torture is John Kiriakou, for whistleblowing on the CIA torture program.
    Sadly, like many organizations that started out with a noble mission and intensions, the UN has devolved into a play ground for greedy elitists from foreign countries who think nothing of their own people, and are only interested in the life of luxury their status allows.

    Like the US does with the International Criminal Court, the blather from the UN should be ignored and considered as nothing but the banter of people who are only there as the result of a political payoff from someone back home.

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