It is laughable that the same people who pretend to be champions of individual freedom also turn right around and say "well THOSE people don't have rights, they're bad people!"
And they have absolute trust that the United States government is using this power responsibly. The government they claim can't do anything right can just arbitrarily decide someone doesn't have rights, and they're totally ok with this.
The same government they claim is creeping towards tyranny every day, they're ok with this.
Literally none of their rhetoric is genuine.
One of you will end up here next!
Second, and lastly for the save of brevity, do you realize that information that is obtained using torture has a tendency to be unreliable because a person will say anything they think that will relieve them of the pain that is being inflicted upon them by a torturer.
How do you know the information obtained from the so called torture which is inflicted on our own troops for survival training didn't provide evidence of value? You believe in guilty until proven innocent? Not one person in authority was interviewed for the report which is like the prosecutor having the entire stage and the defense not allowed to present their case. Sounds a lot like some communist ideology to me.
That is absolutely a stupid question, these people were picked up on the battle field after killing or trying to kill Americans. You really need to do better research. Those people did harm to your fellow Americans and if your kids were in that group, you bet I would do anything I could to prevent them from killing or harming more. None of the techniques used by our military did any permanent harm as these people are still alive. Other American families aren't so lucky due to the actions of individuals these people knew. Stop reading the headlines and find out who got enhanced interrogationMildSteel;1064132298]My loved ones are none of that, so my question to you is, since you would do anything to save your loved ones, would you kill one of mine, who has done nothing to you, to save one of yours. If the answer is yes, then you have the mind of a terrorist.
So you claim these people were innocent? You have no idea who received enhanced interrogation or apparently no idea what is going on in the world todayWhat I would not do to save a loved one is kill another innocent person, unless there was a much larger issue involved.
That is your opinion, you have no idea what information was obtained because the report was partial and didn't tell the whole story. A tendency to be unreliable? Find out who received enhanced interrogation because it appears that you believe innocent people were interrogatedWhat I know, and it is an established fact, is that information obtained under torture has a tendency to be unreliable because of the reason that I mentioned. It is not necessarily unreliable, but it has a tendency to be unreliable.
Terrorists are much more than criminals, they are animals. Check out the beheaded Americans and Burned/tortured Americans on the webI believe that you are guilty if in truth, you did it, and you are innocent if you did not, in truth do it.
What of it? Where is your evidence that "waterboarding" as done by Japanese war criminals was anything like the technique approved for use by U.S. interrogators? Next you'll be trying to tell us the bird bath in someone's garden is just like Lake Michigan, because they are both "bodies of water."And no, the list of the crimes for the Japanese included waterboarding. It was listed and prosecuted.
The report you love so well is a collection of lies designed to slander this country.And as we did this to innocent people, 26 listed in the report, and as well killed one of them in a stress position, an innocent person, your ranting about jihadists is merely a diversion from the point.
That is exactly why all of the enhanced interrogation techniques approved for use by U.S. interrogators were designed not to violate either section 2340 of the U.S. Code or any other applicable U.S. laws against torture. And after painstaking, detailed legal analysis, the Justice Dept.'s Office of Legal Counsel determined that they did not violate any of those laws.[/QUOTE]Torture is illegal.
You can prattle that slander against the United States until you are blue in the face, and it will not make it one bit less false.And on orders, we tortured.
Because torture is a crime under section 2340 of the U.S. Code and other federal law, it could never be "legal," regardless of the reasons for engaging in it.
Last edited by MildSteel; 12-27-14 at 02:48 PM.