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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    If it can be shown that US officials authorized and carried out a program of torture then we need to prosecute them. Emphasis on the word "WE". As in US courts, US judicial system.
    Except that will never happen because the POTUS and the DOD have already granted "immunity" by proxy to all the criminals prior to the POTUS' admission that "we tortured some folks". In legal terms this is known as "depraved indifference", which is tantamount to complicity. The Nuremburg Principles, for which the US had a major role and is a signatory, does not have any provision for granting immunity and makes it very clear that all involved, including those in positions of power who protect others who commit crimes against humanity are complicit.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    The UN won't be able to really do anything to American officials, but the announcement is important nonetheless. It means there's a record somewhere that the wrong has been acknowledged and that someone should pay for it, even if only in spirit.

    Our country has really lost its way, and it gets worse and worse all the time.
    When the UN stops promoting human rights abusers to lead its condemnation bodies then they may have a shred of credibility.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Of course there should be prosecutions for this. The US constitution prohibits torture. Government officials who authorized it and carried it out should pay for their crime. And it's a war crime. If there are not punishments for breaking the law, why bother having it?
    Even democrats who participated?

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Of course there should be prosecutions for this. The US constitution prohibits torture. Government officials who authorized it and carried it out should pay for their crime. And it's a war crime. If there are not punishments for breaking the law, why bother having it?
    So rich white people can get a little adrenaline/ego high when they break it and get away with it...kind of like when a little kid gets away with what would have been a beltable offense.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    If it can be shown that US officials authorized and carried out a program of torture then we need to prosecute them. Emphasis on the word "WE". As in US courts, US judicial system.

    "UN officials" can shampoo my crotch. If it weren't for double standards these people would have no standards at all.
    I'm going to steal that. Best saying I've seen in a long time.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Because it didn't yield useful information. It wasn't coercive, only punitive.

    But are you really suggesting that torture is acceptable when used that way? If it must be punitive, then isn't it permissible to torture you in order to get you to confess to a crime?

    Mornin Paschendale. That's BS. The program yielded far more results than the excuse on a few cases that didn't. You didn't actually believe that BS report put out by the Democrats for political purposes now, did you?


    Here the Matter is, simple like.....would you torture a terrorist or let a multitude of people die? Choice is on you!

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    The UN, as it is, needs to be disbanded.
    Well that, and after a few slaps upside their heads. Just Because, they cant handle violence. I would use some profanity to, as those Sheep can't handle violent speech either.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    I'm not defending our torture program, but I also do not care at all what the UN demands.
    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people." - Penn Jillette.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Of course there should be prosecutions for this. The US constitution prohibits torture. Government officials who authorized it and carried it out should pay for their crime. And it's a war crime. If there are not punishments for breaking the law, why bother having it?
    Did you forget Holder and his Team thought the same? Why didn't Holder come up with anything with his thorough investigation? Why couldn't the Justice Dept bring any criminal charges?

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    When the UN stops promoting human rights abusers to lead its condemnation bodies then they may have a shred of credibility.
    Mornin JMac. Exactly, tell them to walk the walk first before trying to practice what they don't preach to all those out there that do worse than any Western Nations.

    Then if they say anything back.....tell them to STFU!

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