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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0627 View Post
    All senior U.S. officials and CIA agents who authorized or carried out torture like waterboarding as part of former President George W. Bush's national security policy must be prosecuted, top U.N. officials said Wednesday.

    It's not clear, however, how human rights officials think these prosecutions will take place, since the Justice Department has declined to prosecute and the U.S. is not a member of the International Criminal Court.

    Zeid Raad al-Hussein, the U.N. high commissioner for human rights, said it's "crystal clear" under international law that the United States, which ratified the U.N. Convention Against Torture in 1994, now has an obligation to ensure accountability.

    "In all countries, if someone commits murder, they are prosecuted and jailed. If they commit rape or armed robbery, they are prosecuted and jailed. If they order, enable or commit torture ? recognized as a serious international crime ? they cannot simply be granted impunity because of political expediency," he said.

    U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon hopes the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee report on the CIA's harsh interrogation techniques at secret overseas facilities is the "start of a process" toward prosecutions, because the "prohibition against torture is absolute," Ban's spokesman said.

    Ben Emmerson, the U.N.'s special rapporteur on counterterrorism and human rights, said the report released Tuesday shows "there was a clear policy orchestrated at a high level within the Bush administration, which allowed (it) to commit systematic crimes and gross violations of international human rights law."

    He said international law prohibits granting immunity to public officials who allow the use of torture, and this applies not just to the actual perpetrators but also to those who plan and authorize torture.

    UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture - ABC News

    The only CIA agent who has been jailed to date for anything to do with torture is John Kiriakou, for whistleblowing on the CIA torture program.
    Sure, right after we get done with all UN officials for crimes against humanity for promoting socialism we will get right on it. The only thing I support giving to the UN is a bullet to their empty heads.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    It is unconstitutional because if nothing else, it is criminalized by International Law to which we are signatory. That's covered in Article VI of the US Constitution. You should check it out.
    You are equating the US Constitution to "International Law"? Are the democracies the only members subject to this 'international law'? It seems to be ignored by most members.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    I see you are still not paying attention.
    It was already repeated for you once, but I will do it again. I will even make it bigger for you so you can't miss it.
    That may have to be repeated several times during this thread. This begs the question of why are people guessing at their own Constitution and deciding against their own country?.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    The UN, as it is, needs to be disbanded.


    You're entitled to your opinion, but I seriously doubt that anyone alive today will live long enough to see that happen.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Nobody gives a damn what the UN says. They are an impotent bunch of posers on a ridiculously expensive never-ending boondoggle. As far as solving "world problems",
    they're worse than useless
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    Except when they're useful, eh?

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    These people will never be sent to the Hague.


    Probably not, but some of them might want to be careful where they travel.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Even democrats who participated
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    Everyone with dirty hands needs to pay a heavy price.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Except when they're useful, eh?
    I said no one gives a damn what the UN says and I didn't make exceptions for "when they're useful" because by and large, they aren't useful and even when they are, still no one listens. That's why world problems remain world problems in spite of any and all UN rhetoric and posturing.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Witch hunt. Pure and simple from
    a scorned administration looking to hurt as many people as possible on the way out to the trash heap of history
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    Those who advocated, permitted, and practiced torture during the G.W. Bush mis-administration will be punished in the history books if nowhere else.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    I'm sorry but I just can't elevate the act of waterboarding to "crimes against humanity" status.


    In WWII the USA hanged Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American POWs. That's a fact.

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