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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    We'll buy them off. We always have and always will.
    And that should tell us something about the epic uselessness of that organization.
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    UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    If we broke our own rules of law then we are accountable to ourselves, not the UN. BTW, I do not support our torture program but I really do not support the idea of us being responsible to the worthless UN.
    Well, we signed a UN treaty.

    I'm pretty sure we don't ignore treaties just because some people in the US would like to pretend the UN doesn't exist.

    Some people need to learn the definition of 'responsibility' and 'living up to your obligations'.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    The UN, as it is, needs to be disbanded.
    Agreed. It is merely a failed recreation of it's failed predecessor......The League of Nations. It did not learn from it's previous mistakes.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Well, we signed a UN treaty.

    I'm pretty sure we don't ignore treaties just because some people in the US would like to pretend the UN doesn't exist.

    Some people need to learn the definition of 'responsibility' and 'living up to your obligations'.
    Ahh... and some people need to learn the difference between "responsibility" to our own laws and responsibility to the useless UN.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Ahh... and some people need to learn the difference between "responsibility" to our own laws and responsibility to the useless UN.
    So signing a treaty is just something we do when we are bored?

    You may think the city of Mudtown, NY is worthless, but it doesn't mean you can ignore its laws.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Agreed. It is merely a failed recreation of it's failed predecessor......The League of Nations. It did not learn from it's previous mistakes.
    Too quickly it became a forum for dictatorships undermining the democracies. The Democracies should organize their own group in order to weaken those countries who ignore human rights and freedoms.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    So signing a treaty is just something we do when we are bored?

    You may think the city of Mudtown, NY is worthless, but it doesn't mean you can ignore its laws.
    The UN has never lived up to its charter. There is no reason to continue, legal or otherwise.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Well, we signed a UN treaty.

    I'm pretty sure we don't ignore treaties just because some people in the US would like to pretend the UN doesn't exist.

    Some people need to learn the definition of 'responsibility' and 'living up to your obligations'.
    We ignore treaties all the time. Ask China. Ask native Americans.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    So signing a treaty is just something we do when we are bored?

    You may think the city of Mudtown, NY is worthless, but it doesn't mean you can ignore its laws.
    Explain to us how "Mudtown, NY" means something to the UN...
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Too quickly it became a forum for dictatorships undermining the democracies. The Democracies should organize their own group in order to weaken those countries who ignore human rights and freedoms.
    That's the single biggest reason for the UN's failure. It gives dictatorships a seat at the table with the same prestige as democracies. No real incentive to clean up their act.

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