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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    There is only one necessary response to the UN on this, and all it takes is one finger.
    I think we should be more polite and explain why we do things and put it to the UN that we no longer will take responsibility for general security without general participation of the UN and its members.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Sure the weapons were no longer functional and Powell was lousy diplomat. But Saddam was not willing to comply with the Security Council resolution. The inspectors could not inspect. It was really very simple. The invasion was totally legitimate.
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    Not complying with the terms of a surrender is well accepted justification for war.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by KLATTU View Post
    Does the US constitution apply to illegal combatants?
    The 8th amendment simply restricts what our government will do. It doesn't say anything about who we do what to, just that we don't do certain things.
    Liberté. Égalité. Fraternité.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    The 8th amendment simply restricts what our government will do. It doesn't say anything about who we do what to, just that we don't do certain things.
    The 8th Amendment doesn't apply here.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    There is only one necessary response to the UN on this, and all it takes is one finger.
    That one finger can easily be countered with some body bags.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    There is only one necessary response to the UN on this, and all it takes is one finger.
    I agree with this.
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Of course there should be prosecutions for this. The US constitution prohibits torture. Government officials who authorized it and carried it out should pay for their crime. And it's a war crime. If there are not punishments for breaking the law, why bother having it?
    Then why has Obama not instructed his shock collar, Eric Holder to indict?

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0627 View Post
    All senior U.S. officials and CIA agents who authorized or carried out torture like waterboarding as part of former President George W. Bush's national security policy must be prosecuted, top U.N. officials said Wednesday.

    It's not clear, however, how human rights officials think these prosecutions will take place, since the Justice Department has declined to prosecute and the U.S. is not a member of the International Criminal Court.

    Zeid Raad al-Hussein, the U.N. high commissioner for human rights, said it's "crystal clear" under international law that the United States, which ratified the U.N. Convention Against Torture in 1994, now has an obligation to ensure accountability.

    "In all countries, if someone commits murder, they are prosecuted and jailed. If they commit rape or armed robbery, they are prosecuted and jailed. If they order, enable or commit torture ? recognized as a serious international crime ? they cannot simply be granted impunity because of political expediency," he said.

    U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon hopes the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee report on the CIA's harsh interrogation techniques at secret overseas facilities is the "start of a process" toward prosecutions, because the "prohibition against torture is absolute," Ban's spokesman said.

    Ben Emmerson, the U.N.'s special rapporteur on counterterrorism and human rights, said the report released Tuesday shows "there was a clear policy orchestrated at a high level within the Bush administration, which allowed (it) to commit systematic crimes and gross violations of international human rights law."

    He said international law prohibits granting immunity to public officials who allow the use of torture, and this applies not just to the actual perpetrators but also to those who plan and authorize torture.

    UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture - ABC News

    The only CIA agent who has been jailed to date for anything to do with torture is John Kiriakou, for whistleblowing on the CIA torture program.
    So are they planning to send arresting officers over here to arrest everyone in the CIA or is Obama supposed to round everyone up and ship them somewhere for trial?
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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    That one finger can easily be countered with some body bags.
    The UN's going to kill us?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    The 8th amendment simply restricts what our government will do. It doesn't say anything about who we do what to, just that we don't do certain things.
    Why do you think the shameful democrats have chosen to "try" this case in the press, rather than instructing the openly corrupt DOJ to start rounding up people and indicting them?

    Could it be that the 8th is irrelevant to an unlawful combatant who has the status of a spy and can be legally shot under the Geneva convention? Could it be that the democrats don't have any legal basis and thus have again retreated demagoguery?

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