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UN Officials Demand Prosecutions for US Torture

clownboy said:
Considering the UN has consistently failed it's founding purpose (to prevent war between member states) and the fact that they have taken way more power and influence then they were ever granted, I agree with this.
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Maybe one of the UN's current or former member states of their Human Rights Committee, say Libya as an example, would be pleased to house the UN free of charge for a while. Perhaps a nice Mediterranean view. Now, I'm sure the parking and limousine services aren't as good and no freebie Broadway shows and 4 star restaurants, but that shouldn't bother these pillars of virtue.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
I am an American Patriot. And because of this I agree. These traitors that torture should not be protected and not allowed to shame our country.
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No one has shamed your country. Any shame you may feel is personal.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Maybe one of the UN's current or former member states of their Human Rights Committee, say Libya as an example, would be pleased to house the UN free of charge for a while. Perhaps a nice Mediterranean view. Now, I'm sure the parking and limousine services aren't as good and no freebie Broadway shows and 4 star restaurants, but that shouldn't bother these pillars of virtue.
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And the desert allows a lot of free parking.
 
shrubnose said:
"I was just following orders." didn't save the Germans and Japanese who were hanged after WWII, eh?
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You do know you're taking it out of context. Of course you know.
 
American said:
You do know you're taking it out of context. Of course you know.
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Anyone who does what they're told to do by illegal orders is just as guilty as they would be if they had given the orders.

There are quite a few people who served the G.W. Bush mis-administration who should be sitting in jail waiting for trial.

If they're smart they won't travel to certain countries.
 
shrubnose said:
Anyone who does what they're told to do by illegal orders is just as guilty as they would be if they had given the orders.

There are quite a few people who served the G.W. Bush mis-administration who should be sitting in jail waiting for trial.

If they're smart they won't travel to certain countries.
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Which countries do you have in mind?
 
shrubnose said:
Italy and Spain are 2 countries that those war criminals should probably stay away from.
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Which 'war criminals' are you referring to and what actions do you think Italy and Spain might take?
 
shrubnose said:
Anyone who does what they're told to do by illegal orders is just as guilty as they would be if they had given the orders.

There are quite a few people who served the G.W. Bush mis-administration who should be sitting in jail waiting for trial.

If they're smart they won't travel to certain countries.
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They're weren't illegal, because their lawyers said they weren't.
 
shrubnose said:
If they're smart they won't travel to certain countries.
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No jurisdiction.
You do understand that that is what is needed, right?

shrubnose said:
Italy and Spain are 2 countries that those war criminals should probably stay away from.
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Those countries would not even dare try.
 
Excon said:
Do you not know the subject material?
Have you not read the thread?

It was done for purposes of interrogation. Not punishment.
There is no Constitutional argument as it was not done as punishment.
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It was immoral and illegal, whether done for grins 'n giggles or punishment. Your sophistry is Oh So Inside the Beltway.
 
Grant said:
You are equating the US Constitution to "International Law"? Are the democracies the only members subject to this 'international law'? It seems to be ignored by most members.
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Do us both a favor and read Article VI :peace
 
Excon said:
No jurisdiction.
You do understand that that is what is needed, right?

Those countries would not even dare try.
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You might get a surprise in the future.

There are quite a few countries on this planet that don't need to kiss the USA's butt.
 
shrubnose said:
Yep.

One of them owns or owned a home in Italy. He can't go there now.
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If I recall, one of them was also detained in Panama and there was s possibility of having him extradited to Italy, so these 22 agents are at risk when crossing any borders.

The UN has declared that the CIA personnel who tortured, and by extension, their leaders, can be brought to prosecution in essentially 'any country in the world' by UN treaty.

I'm guessing these guys will be vacationing domestically for the rest of their lives.
 
whysoserious said:
All of Italy are ******s anyway, amiright?
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They certainly have had a problem participating in international security matters equivalent to their dependence on global exchange and their wealth. But that is another problem. Why do you bring it up.
 
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