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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have no opinion about cover, having not read the article. But have you listened to Palin, Santorum, Bachmann, Cruz, King, and Paul?
    All I have to say is




    But if you'd like to list off Hillary Clinton's many brilliant accomplishments as SecState which demonstrated the real long-term success of "Smart Power", I'd be happy to read through it.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    It will require a communal organization of security.
    Yeah, I can't help but notice that you didn't answer the question? What good actors are going to step in and fill the security void? Is Germany going to do it? Spain? Japan? Does Australia have that kind of projection capacity? India?

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Now it's official that KSM wasn't the only one, and that waterboarding wasn't the only form of sharpened interrogation that took place, so we know now that our government, the one that is supposed to stick up for human rights and stand for freedom and limited government and yadayadayada actually suborned tor.. I mean sharpened interrogation of prisoners.

    What we don't know is that said torture actually produced any useful information.

    Now that the report is out, the only refuge of the "Oh, our government would never do that" folks is to say that the report was produced by Democrats, and is ipso facto flawed, and/or that the end justified the means and kept us safe.

    And that's simply a crock.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    It will require a communal organization of security.
    It takes a community, huh? That could be a great campaign slogan.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yeah, I can't help but notice that you didn't answer the question? What good actors are going to step in and fill the security void? Is Germany going to do it? Spain? Japan? Does Australia have that kind of projection capacity? India?
    It will need to be organized like these things are done domestically. Everyone pitches in and pays for a police force. It will be a bumpy transition. Remember how tough it was getting there in 19th century Germany or our Wild West.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It takes a community, huh? That could be a great campaign slogan.
    Nothing like a good slogan in politics.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    Article17 of The Geneva Convention says it all. The CIA was in violation.
    Doesn't the Geneva Convention only apply to uniformed combatants? These terrorists are not covered by the Geneva Convention.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Doesn't the Geneva Convention only apply to uniformed combatants? These terrorists are not covered by the Geneva Convention.
    I didn't read anything about uniforms just about being at war which we were with Iraq. Read it and see what you think.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    On and off. They plummeted from 06-09, broadly speaking, but recovered and made up lost ground since.
    They gained a lot of ground when they were allowed into Iraq after the American invasion. Even more when we left, and the power vacuum became complete. What are we to conclude from that?
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    They gained a lot of ground when they were allowed into Iraq after the American invasion.
    And were utterly wrecked by the successful CT/COIN strategy implemented 2007-2009. The effects weren't limited to Iraq, either, but were regional in nature.

    Even more when we left, and the power vacuum became complete. What are we to conclude from that?
    Don't leave power vacuums. (coughafghanistancough)

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