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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Locking someone up without any charges, trial date, defined sentence or access to a lawyer, zapping them with a drone for being too close to a secret target or placing them on a secret kill on sight list are much better options - just ask Obama.
    Or, we all agree all of it is wrong.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Or, we all agree all of it is wrong.
    Nonsense - where is the congressional, or presidential, objection to any of that? Why no report on, or objection to, those acts from Feinstein? The only objection that Feinstein seems to have is to what happened under the Bush administration even if some of those key players are now part of the Obama administration. You cannot have a crime without having a criminal - except in congress critter land where "expressing outrage" in a report/hearing for past alleged criminal acts serves as "justice".
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Nonsense - where is the congressional, or presidential, objection to any of that? Why no report on, or objection to, those acts from Feinstein? The only objection that Feinstein seems to have is to what happened under the Bush administration even if some of those key players are now part of the Obama administration. You cannot have a crime without having a criminal - except in congress critter land where "expressing outrage" in a report/hearing for past alleged criminal acts serves as "justice".
    I'm willing to call all of them criminals. And I would love us to enforce the law.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm willing to call all of them criminals. And I would love us to enforce the law.
    If congress, the POTUS and the SCOTUS all allow it then it is the law. You seem to think that the Obama administration is going to arrest itself.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Sure, if they torture and kill kindergartners.
    Who did we kill?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    If congress, the POTUS and the SCOTUS all allow it then it is the law. You seem to think that the Obama administration is going to arrest itself.
    I don't think SCOTUS has addressed it all. I also don't think Obama is a law enforcement agent. Much of what has been is immoral, illegal and ineffective. And that which isn't illegal, should be. We claim a lot as being a moral people, and yet we not allow, but too often support immoral and evil acts.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, tell Palestinians to knock it off...
    Right? Caught in the circle, nothing stops.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yup. India and Pakistan have a similarly lengthed conflict over Kashmir, how's that going?

    But I can't help but notice that you didn't answer the question?



    That is flatly false. I could just as easily make the argument that the only result has been that Iran hasn't shut down the Strait of Hormuz. Focusing on a single data point devoid of context or competing priorities may make for good polemics, but it's a poor way to craft policy.



    Gosh. If only there was some kind of counter-insurgency methodology out there somewhere with a recent, proven track record......
    If only, but it seems mostly we're just spending trillions of dollars, 10's of thousands of American lives to support an infinity war that pretty much just makes breeding grounds for groups like ISIS.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Who did we kill?
    Some of the detainees died from the torture. Check the posts above.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Waterboarding is real torture. Sleep deprivation is real torture. Many things are real torture.
    Personally, I don't believe that waterboarding or sleep deprivation is torture. Pulling fingernails, beatings, breaking bones or causing serious and lasting injury to me would be torture. I suppose it's all a matter of individual bias.

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