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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post

    Oh and as to Bin Ladens Courier.....note what the CIA says about not ever being able to discover the courier without those EITs.
    It is really wonderful to see so much effort being applied to support the means justifying the ends....assuming that what is said by CIA sources (who have VERY vested interests in justifying torture) is true.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    What Feinstein has done is sensationalized the techniques. Just as Eric Holder has acted to incite and intensify race riots in Ferguson, Feinstein and the democrats have acted to incite and intensify anti-American sentiments and actions around the globe.

    How long until we have ISIS cutting the head off an American on Youtube, citing Feinstein as justification? I'm actually surprised it hasn't happened already. Feinstein and the democrats are irresponsible, partisan hacks with no concern for the lives of Americans.
    OK, how does the information get released without "sensationalizing" it?

    And if ISIS cuts of heads because it was revealed that we waterboarded people, which the world already knew, then the problem isn't the revelation but the act.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    It wasn't intended to cause outrage among Americans.

    The intent of the democrats is to stir up ISIS and Al Qaeda.
    Well, thanks for that. No need to take your views seriously when you're so obviously partisan.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    It is really wonderful to see so much effort being applied to support the means justifying the ends....assuming that what is said by CIA sources (who have VERY vested interests in justifying torture) is true.
    Not at all.....it is a simple matter especially for those that believe they are highly moral.

    You have a terrorist and you have great many lives you can save. You have a choice. You can torture the terrorist or let a great many people die. You decide. Will you torture to try and get some info. Or will you let all those people die? You make the call.

    Which is it?

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    It wasn't intended to cause outrage among Americans.

    The intent of the democrats is to stir up ISIS and Al Qaeda.
    Intentional or not, it did just that. Which makes its release an act of treason, in my opinion.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Not at all.....it is a simple matter especially for those that believe they are highly moral.

    You have a terrorist and you have great many lives you can save. You have a choice. You can torture the terrorist or let a great many people die. You decide. Will you torture to try and get some info. Or will you let all those people die? You make the call.

    Which is it?
    That's not the actual choice. Even accepting the first premise - known terrorist who you know has information that if revealed, accurately, as a result of torture will save a great many from death - there are more choices than 1) torture, or 2) do nothing and let them all die.

    We somehow fought the Germans and Japanese, among others, without the need to sanction torture of detainees as a legitimate interrogation tool.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    It wasn't intended to cause outrage among Americans.

    The intent of the democrats is to stir up ISIS and Al Qaeda.
    That's pants-fryingly absurd.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    There are two events you're conflating. That we kill people during war doesn't justify torture as a legitimate interrogation technique because it's preferable or less harmful than killing them, or at least it hasn't justified it in our history. We tried torturers and sentenced them to jail. Should those Japanese charged with war crimes, among others, simply used the defense - "We could have shot them, so torture short of death cannot be a crime."?
    Please read the details of the Japanese war atrocities before to soil this thread with more demeaning moral equivalencies.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    What Feinstein has done is sensationalized the techniques. Just as Eric Holder has acted to incite and intensify race riots in Ferguson, Feinstein and the democrats have acted to incite and intensify anti-American sentiments and actions around the globe.

    How long until we have ISIS cutting the head off an American on Youtube, citing Feinstein as justification? I'm actually surprised it hasn't happened already. Feinstein and the democrats are irresponsible, partisan hacks with no concern for the lives of Americans.
    Nobody's managed to explain how he did THAT, either, but I expect nothing less from you of all people.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Intentional or not, it did just that. Which makes its release an act of treason, in my opinion.
    As I recall, ISIS and AQ were active, and killing Americans, long before the Democrats released the report.

    And you're still shooting the messenger. If it's treason to reveal what happened, surely the acts revealed were also treasonous.

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