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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Dittohead not!

    : But the "unacceptable" forms of torture were abandoned years ago, if I understand the report, so why bring them up now? There are probably things going on today that we don't know about that would make us very uneasy if we knew about them, but look at what we're dealing with! It's sad that innocent people are being killed or maimed by our bombings, but their own leaders treat them worse on a daily basis than we do if they don't conform to their edicts. What forms of torture are considered "acceptable" these days?
    No form of torture should be deemed "acceptable".

    Yes, look who we're dealing with. Evil people. Cockroaches. Let's not become like them by attempting to defeat them. The US has to be better than ISIS.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's still opinion. Not much else.
    Well, it seems you're willing to go to great lengths to accept what has been widely exposed as opinion masquerading as a "report" from the Democrats, so I'm not sure that standard is helping your cause.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Oh hell, none of the techniques are secret. Hell they're old school Russian practices. Even ISIS know them and how ineffective they are. That's why they just kill.
    This is a ridiculous assertion. If the purpose is to gain intelligence, killing the subject is the very worst thing you can do. Claiming ISIS just kills people since torture is ineffective is committing a pretty obvious category error.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    So, if the report proves the CIA did unspeakable things, what should happen next? What should the Obama Administration do?
    I don't think it will be the Obama Administration that will do anything. I think worst case, the International community will start demanding people from the GW Bush Administration be brought up on war crimes.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I don't think it will be the Obama Administration that will do anything. I think worst case, the International community will start demanding people from the GW Bush Administration be brought up on war crimes.
    Which would set a precedent and then every President after who the international community would demand the same thing - like Obama for assassination of innocents using drone strikes. The more politicians in jail the better, right?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I don't think it will be the Obama Administration that will do anything. I think worst case, the International community will start demanding people from the GW Bush Administration be brought up on war crimes.
    Which international community?
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's still opinion. Not much else.
    Much like Dianne Feinstein's release of the report.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I don't think it will be the Obama Administration that will do anything. I think worst case, the International community will start demanding people from the GW Bush Administration be brought up on war crimes.
    The actions of the "international community" is to be expected. That is one of the reasons I agree with the Clinton Administrations renouncing of membership in the ICC, and both the Bush Administration and Obama Administration continuation of that decision. Let the "international community" rant all they want.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I think Bob Kerrey summed up the Democrats effort best.

    Sen. Bob Kerrey: Partisan torture report fails America
    Doesn't Kerrey, who recently lost his bid for reelection in Nebraska, understand that the partisanship shown is all on his side of the aisle - or does he and he's saying he doesn't like it? Looks like the latter to me, and kudos to him for stating his opinion, which I agree with. Feinstein may have just given our enemies what they need as propaganda to use against us! Perhaps she should consider retiring if this is the best she can do for America - she is 81 years old, and a multi-millionaire who apparently doesn't fear terrorists.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, Pero.

    I don't understand this at all. Feinstein seems to be angry about the way the midterms turned out, but the voters have spoken. They were not thinking about Feinstein when they went into the voting booth, so why put this report out for the world to see about events that happened years ago, and were corrected years ago? I always sort of liked her, but this seems like vindictiveness on her part, which disappoints me about her, and could do great harm to our country and our personnel serving all over the world.

    Perhaps you are correct in thinking this is a payback to the CIA for spying on her committee, but wasn't there a better way to handle that to keep it in-house? And more importantly, why were years spent compiling all the things the CIA was doing a long time ago? Don't they have enough to do? Does she think that Democrat President's have not used the CIA to get information they need or want? c'mon.....
    Pol, when it comes to politics so little passes the common sense taste.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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