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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    the JD excuse was used to explain why the Dem staffers didn't interview anyone from the CIA ... THAT JD excuse.
    And wouldn't it have been so very cool to find out if the documents really did tell the story by talking to the people involved?
    As a result we're left with a report as valuable as a Rolling Stone UVA story.
    I would love to see any documents that actually support the claims. But none have been presented in all these years.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Maybe its just me.

    But I would rather be alive, even if I had been hurt and was suffering nightmares..........than dead.

    How anyone can claim otherwise is beyond me.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Boo has sen it: From the report:

    Although CIA gradually became more knowledgeable about and selective in its use of enhanced interrogations techniques, we agree fully with the Study's critique of the Agency's
    failure to perform a comprehensive analysis of the effectiveness of those techniques.

    And notice the word role in this: As such, the information CIA obtained from these detainees did play a role-in combination with other streams of intelligence-in finding the al-Qa'ida leader.

    They speak from the perspective of not wanting to be seen in a poor light. The rebuttal goes on to say they could not honestly state they couldn't have gotten the information any other way. So, it doesn't show verifiable evidence that torture was effective. And they never studied to find out if it was.




    Nice spin. But there is far more to what is stated in the minority report about information gathered than what you've implied here.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Are we really still debating as to whether prisoners were tortured? No kidding?

    Now, the debate is over. The remaining question is whether the "scathing report" that was just issued is simply the tip of the iceberg.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Its all kool-aid! We didnt torture people! Oh wait did we? No it was enhanced interrogation! This study is all a lie! Dont believe the over 6 million documents they analyzed or interviews! The CIA has nothing to hide, they just spied on the committee for fun!
    So, I take it you've decided not to read the Minority Report. Credibility Level confirmed!

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, bubba.

    What is the real reason for what's currently going on with the release of this report? This is so one-sided that it's useless as a distraction, if that's what they were aiming for. Remembering that nearly 3000 people died on 9-11, it's logical to assume that the CIA was told to do whatever was necessary to learn if there were further attacks planned. That wasn't a wrong decision to make, IMO. It would have been derelict if it hadn't been done!

    To now attempt to use this as a club against our intelligence division, at a time when terrorists are gaining ground worldwide, not only works against protecting our people worldwide, it shows us that we are dealing with animals who behead people who don't agree with them. Are we now supposed to invite them to tea, and have "empathetic" conversations with them to learn how we may become friends? Sorry, Not in my world!

    Well since you ask a rhetorical question I'll give you a speculative answer.
    The Dems got slammed in the election last month so they need to energize their base.
    But why with something so far out of left field as this, you might ask?
    Well, maybe they see that Hillary is such a crappy candidate that they need to go with someone stronger ... someone who absolutely would energize the media on her side ... someone who would be a first ... someone who is just as far out in left field as this report and the NYT are.
    Now who would that be?

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Nothing like getting a self described neo-con to blast a report that proves we tortured people....


    And what quotes are these? Any specifics?



    You dont want propaganda for your enemies, dont ****ing torture people. Pretty simple. Dont want jihadists going around screaming that we torture people? DONT DO IT. Simple.
    “The bottom line is these techniques have hurt our image around the world, the damage they have done to our interests far outweighed whatever benefit they gave us and they are not essential to our national security."
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    Oh did you mean Feinstein and her staff members trying to do thinking for others. Also not calling for any depositions?

    What part about sensationlization don't you get? Like he says at the end.




    But you can still object to the conduct, you can still hold people accountable if you need to without releasing these kinds of sensational details, which harm American national security interests, and harm our ability to fight terrorism here and now......snip~



    Seems even a Neo Con can get it Right.

    Whats funny is how you talk about others and their Objectivity while defending Feinsteins Report which is completely without any Objectivity whatsoever.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I would love to see any documents that actually support the claims. But none have been presented in all these years.
    So you would like to see something published that explicitly explains CIA methods & practices.
    Well, okay, but you have to promise that ISIS et al won't see it too.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

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    Nice spin. But there is far more to what is stated in the minority report about information gathered than what you've implied here.

    Not much. They claim some success but offer little in support. And as we have looked at those before, we know they are less that convincing. We had much of the information already through other means. Saying they got more is not the same as showing they got more. And the bottom line is they neither studied nor can state how effective it was or wasn't. They just "feel" that it was. That's hardly enough.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I am afraid, if what seems to be in the report is true, that it was necessary to publish it. American citizens need to know if their employees are breaking the law and lying to them. I can hardly believe that the guys at the CIA were as stupid as it now seems.
    Yes, yes... why save lives if it means putting a murdering, terrorist, sub-human in a diaper? or perhaps listen to music they don't like after bedtime? Totally worth it. Imagine all the money we are saving in Pampers now. Our loved ones can be blown to little bits with a smile on their collective faces due to this kind of thinking.
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