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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    It's irrelevant that the CIA lied to Congress...the Commander and Chief about the effectiveness and use of torture? Oh...to cap it off it leaked sensitive information to reporters misstating the usefulness of intel gained through torture?

    Gotta love the perspective of your "freedom" loving Conservatives on this report.
    No, you went off on a tangent, not relevant to the point I was making that the democrats are endangering lives by releasing such a report.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    That's not a reason. The terrorists could say the exact same thing. The bad US murdered so and so, ergo these other people deserve everything they get.
    Hey, don't forget making them miss their bedtimes!
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Excellent analysis rhine....What's amazing to me is that I see all sorts of libs wringing their hands, and screaming with pursed lips about how Cheney and the CIA lied on the one hand, and how wrong, and unconstitutional this was, while on the other their own lying about things like the ACA was perfectly fine...Bunch of hypocrites all of em....
    That's also a great point. These putrid Washington politicians, mostly the democrats, mislead their sheeple, and point out all the wrongs done by everyone else, while they do much worse. The CIA is protecting us. They owe a debt of gratitude to them that they or other Americans haven't been blown to bits in their home or work.

    But they go right ahead and defend terrorists, take our liberties, and the fruits of our labors as the point to others that do the work that they don't have the guts to do.

    Now they have endangered us, once again.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, I mean why should we even know anything that the government does. It's not like we were charged with controlling it.
    Well, here's a scenario. What if we never, ever, tortured anyone? But our public policy was that we would do anything to get the information out of someone?

    How do you think one of these miscreants would react if they knew going in that they would be treated like a hotel guest vs. one that was convinced that anything was on the table?
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Fienstein wasn't the ideologue that her colleague from California is, Boxer. That is why releasing this report came as a surprise to me. Perhaps it was her way of getting back at the CIA for spying on the intel committee.
    Good morning, Pero.

    I don't understand this at all. Feinstein seems to be angry about the way the midterms turned out, but the voters have spoken. They were not thinking about Feinstein when they went into the voting booth, so why put this report out for the world to see about events that happened years ago, and were corrected years ago? I always sort of liked her, but this seems like vindictiveness on her part, which disappoints me about her, and could do great harm to our country and our personnel serving all over the world.

    Perhaps you are correct in thinking this is a payback to the CIA for spying on her committee, but wasn't there a better way to handle that to keep it in-house? And more importantly, why were years spent compiling all the things the CIA was doing a long time ago? Don't they have enough to do? Does she think that Democrat President's have not used the CIA to get information they need or want? c'mon.....

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    LOL

    Like you said? Epic FAIL

    The reports found on the website I linked provide a verifiable cross referenced counter view to what is contained in the Democrats no human interview review of documents. They provide a thought provoking review of the effort the Democrats were making and the issues they were ignoring.

    Rational, non agenda driven people would take the time to compare the two sides to the issue. It's obvious your not in that class.
    No, they didn't. You are factually incorrect.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, they didn't. You are factually incorrect.
    Name the facts I am incorrect on.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    You know as well as I do that I have linked and demonstrated it all for you before, but you cling to hypothetical counterfactuals as a defense.
    No, everything you have ever linked has been disputed. Not verifiable.


    no.

    A) If you decide to engage in warfare against America, we can kill you. Abraham Lincoln didn't feel the need to capture and put every Confederate soldier on trial, he ordered the Union army to use cannons to blast them into tiny pieces of bloody meat.

    B) If in fact we were acting as partisan hacks, then we would be seeking partisan advantage, and attacking Obama as having taken an unconstitutional action when he killed that guy, instead of agreeing that the move was probably the right one. So your claims are self-contradicting.

    Seriously. Usually your posts are at least pretty well thought out - did you skip your Wheaties this morning?
    Killing in battle is one thing. Torturing is another. And many here, admittedly not you, throw their morals out the door on this issue. They ignore the evil in torture, and run with their hatred. They only changed when it concerned Obama.

    As for you, you seem a true believer. The only thing that bothers me is I have talked with two here who are haunted by what what they saw in terms of torture. I'm sad they have to suffer, and torture harms even those who are doing the torture, but glad to see they still have the humanity to know the evil in what was done. When you can no longer see it, something of the human being is lost.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, Pero.

    I don't understand this at all. Feinstein seems to be angry about the way the midterms turned out, but the voters have spoken. They were not thinking about Feinstein when they went into the voting booth, so why put this report out for the world to see about events that happened years ago, and were corrected years ago? I always sort of liked her, but this seems like vindictiveness on her part, which disappoints me about her, and could do great harm to our country and our personnel serving all over the world.

    Perhaps you are correct in thinking this is a payback to the CIA for spying on her committee, but wasn't there a better way to handle that to keep it in-house? And more importantly, why were years spent compiling all the things the CIA was doing a long time ago? Don't they have enough to do? Does she think that Democrat President's have not used the CIA to get information they need or want? c'mon.....
    Well, under her gentle great-grandma facade is one of the most corrupt politicians in Washington. She has made millions of dollars championing and passing laws that directly impact her family's businesses. I wouldn't be surprised in the least to find that someone in her family runs a law practice with an active class action suit against the CIA. That is just how she rolls.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, everything you have ever linked has been disputed. Not verifiable.




    Killing in battle is one thing. .
    You do know don't you that "killing in battle" is not the honorable, fair "clash of warriors" as depicted in television and movies?

    In the modern era, most people "killed in battle" whether they be soldiers or civilians are about as helpless as if they were strapped to a gurney.

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