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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Again... just rename things to dodge law. Don't ever speak of the constitution in any manner ever again. You have no credibility in that area now.
    No one is renaming anything the Geneva convention gives specific qualifications to fall under its protections

    Be commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates
    Have a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance
    Carry any weapons openly
    Conduct operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war

    Maybe you should read something before you try to lecture someone on it, that goes for the constitution as well as Im sure you havent read it either

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Im sure this website is very objective


    Exclusive: Former Spies Launch

    More spin by the CIA.
    I'm sure it is likely just as objective as the no interview Democrat led review of documents. Perhaps you could take a moment to review the reports linked at the site. I found them an interesting counter to what the Democrats gleaned from their documents only effort.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Those were proven false years ago. We actual got most that Intel by other means. Like I said, present something verifiable.
    LOL

    Like you said? Epic FAIL

    The reports found on the website I linked provide a verifiable cross referenced counter view to what is contained in the Democrats no human interview review of documents. They provide a thought provoking review of the effort the Democrats were making and the issues they were ignoring.

    Rational, non agenda driven people would take the time to compare the two sides to the issue. It's obvious your not in that class.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    I wouldn't be surprised if we get another nasty letter from the UN about this. Russia has been using the UN to throw daggers at us daily. I expect another well drafted letter about our human rights violations. It should spark another fun thread of who needs the UN anyways.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Im sure this website is very objective


    Exclusive: Former Spies Launch

    More spin by the CIA.


    Oh, now you are worried about Objectivity? How does that work with Feinstein's One sided Report and when they admit they didn't speak to any witnesses?

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Oh here is a very surprising article:

    Americans Have Grown More Supportive Of Torture

    Americans Have Grown More Supportive Of Torture | FiveThirtyEight

    Heya Pero. Did you find that one link where most of the harsh tactics were removed under Bush Junior?

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if we get another nasty letter from the UN about this. Russia has been using the UN to throw daggers at us daily. I expect another well drafted letter about our human rights violations. It should spark another fun thread of who needs the UN anyways.
    Mornin' Blue State. Iran jumped out yesterday and gave us a little rubbin.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You know as well as I do, nothing verifiable has ever been but out. It's all smoke and no meat, and each has been shown as that.
    You know as well as I do that I have linked and demonstrated it all for you before, but you cling to hypothetical counterfactuals as a defense.

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob
    This thread is a gross display of typical right wing authoritarianism at its finest. Couple that with all the BS talk right wingers do about the constitution this and the constitution that... all bullcrap. Such a hurry to trash the law when it means pretending to be tough.

    You guys run around touting all this constitutional knowledge and how Obama is running afoul of the constitution with the healthcare law or immigration. You guys know nothing. Obama HAS broke the constitution. He killed an American citizen abroad without due process. That is unconstitutional. Don't hear you guys bitching about that. Because you guys have to stay quiet when he's doing things you like ohhhhh like trashing the constitution to kill someone.

    Bunch of partisan hacks you guys are who are all as oblivious to facts as you are the constitution and the rule of law in any manner.
    no.

    A) If you decide to engage in warfare against America, we can kill you. Abraham Lincoln didn't feel the need to capture and put every Confederate soldier on trial, he ordered the Union army to use cannons to blast them into tiny pieces of bloody meat.

    B) If in fact we were acting as partisan hacks, then we would be seeking partisan advantage, and attacking Obama as having taken an unconstitutional action when he killed that guy, instead of agreeing that the move was probably the right one. So your claims are self-contradicting.

    Seriously. Usually your posts are at least pretty well thought out - did you skip your Wheaties this morning?

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Pero. Did you find that one link where most of the harsh tactics were removed under Bush Junior?
    I never really went looking for it. But I was amazed at the number of Americans these days that approve of the use of torture, over half. So what was the motive for releasing the report? The program had been stopped for a good 7 years or there about. Everyone knew we were using these techniques. The report isn't going to change anyone's mind on how they view these things. All it might do is get third countries who were helping us to stop, can't trust us. Maybe become an recruiting tool for ISIS, AQ and the like and hinder our intelligence gathering.

    This was just the Democratic summary of the full report. We'll see what happens, good, bad or indifferent.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I never really went looking for it. But I was amazed at the number of Americans these days that approve of the use of torture, over half. So what was the motive for releasing the report? The program had been stopped for a good 7 years or there about. Everyone knew we were using these techniques. The report isn't going to change anyone's mind on how they view these things. All it might do is get third countries who were helping us to stop, can't trust us. Maybe become an recruiting tool for ISIS, AQ and the like and hinder our intelligence gathering.

    This was just the Democratic summary of the full report. We'll see what happens, good, bad or indifferent.
    That's what I've been asking as well. What specifically was the purpose of the release of the report now?
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