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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Pero.

    It appears it's being attempted as a diversion to help minimize the aftershock of Gruber's testimony, but I don't think it's going to work. Interrogation was over years ago - ACA is now, and it's affecting people's wallets!
    that's a possibility. Gruber was testifying on Capital Hill this morning and that was hot news. That is until Fienstien took over.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    This was all long before ISIS.

    That said, if you're basing the moral justification for waging a war on terrorists because you're not quite as bad as they are; then you're fighting a losing fight.
    "Not quite as bad". You mean like not gunning down hundreds of detainees, selling women and children into sexual slavery, and decapitating prisoners to secure demands from another state?

    Like not feeding prisoners into industrial plastic shredders? We're not "quite" as bad as all that.

    But, your "then you're fighting a losing fight" is logically self defeating. One would assume that if the other side is engaging in equal or worse treatment of prisoners (let alone unlawful combatants) then they are losing the battle to. But someone wins eventually...

    The real difference between us an them is that we have laws that apply to everyone, not just the peasants. No one is above the law, and no one is beneath. Everyone gets their day in court. Everyone has a right to be treated fairly regardless of what they've done, who they are, and what they believe.
    Well, no. unlawful combatants aren't protected under the law the same as a uniformed enemy, or a civilian. They throw away most of their rights when they chose to take up the fight without a uniform.

    The reason for this rule should be obvious. By fighting dressed in civilian clothing the unlawful combatant makes the civilian population a rational target for the opposing force. For Islamic militants this is exactly the intent, of course. As such they don't get equal protection under the law. In fact, they could be summarily executed.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    thank god this is probably the last time anyone will have to listen to another speech from that old bag Pelosi.

    it took the liberals a decade to officially call it torture. congratulations. If the terrorists hit us TOMORROW I hope the CIA does the exact same thing(minus the one death). If they find a suspected terrorists give him the whole "torture" menu. then twice on Sunday.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    To keep the incoming majority very, very busy. Same tactic Obama has been using. Plus now there's a chance to gin up some things to use to counter Benghazi and IRS and the other scandals for next election.
    The IRS and Benghazi really had no effect on last months election. It was more the economy as shown in the exit polls. Something like this, this far out will not effect 2016 at all. I think Polgara had a better idea. Take the public's away from Gruber.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    That didnt answer my question. Is this specific building still used by the CIA?
    Would the CIA say so, are there others? Moreover what about those who live there that helped us to deal with them? Think they have moved away from their homes?

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    How is Obama's drone program any less morally problematic ?

    Where's the Senate report on that ?

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Moral ground was lost decades ago.
    I do agree with that, but you don't regain it by emulating terrorist. If you stand for something, stand for it.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Does anyone actually believe that the tor.. I mean "enhanced interrogation techniques" ended with the election of the new president?

    I suppose they must. Some people will believe almost anything.
    It is my understanding that Bush put a stop to it before he left the presidency.
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Here's the point:

    The torture report released Tuesday by the Senate Intelligence Committee says the CIA deceived the nation with its insistence that the harsh interrogation tactics had saved lives. It says those claims are unsubstantiated by the CIA’s own records.

    Senate report: Harsh CIA tactics didn't work | The Rundown | PBS NewsHour

    Whine about left and right all you want, the point is still the point.
    Democrat politicians issue a report that says it didn't work? If it did work, they certainly admit it?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    that's a possibility. Gruber was testifying on Capital Hill this morning and that was hot news. That is until Fienstien took over.
    Yeah, but what are the networks going to carry? That which would embarrass Obamacare? Or their old favorite whipping boy?

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