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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Supposedly all of this stuff was stopped when Bush was still president. So why release it now? You can't stop something that has already been stopped. I haven't seen the report, so I don't know if it will cost lives, deplete intel assets or stop some third countries from cooperating with us. All a possibility but as of now, unknown.

    But if the release of the report does cause all or some of the above to happen, then we know whom to blame. If not, then we know whom to give credit. Which ever way it goes, I just hope it does not have the repercussions the Church Report did which damaged and hindered our intel gathering capabilities for a couple of decades at least. But time will tell.
    The 500-page document released Tuesday included the executive summary and conclusions of a still-secret, 6,700-page full report, the results of a five-year, $40 million investigation. President Barack Obama ordered the interrogation practices halted when he took office nearly six years ago, though the harshest tactics had been discontinued years before. The report provides a catalog of what it deems misstatements by senior CIA officials to the president, the Justice Department, Congress and the American public. It describes mismanagement so deficient that the agency lost track of how many detainees it held. Senate investigators documented 119 — a higher figure than the 98 described in memos made public in 2009. At least 39 faced harsh interrogations, the report said. The CIA has cited the number 30.

    Feinstein said the CIA's program amounted to "indefinite secret detention and the use of brutal interrogation techniques in violation of U.S. law, treaty obligations and our values."

    Former CIA officials forcefully disputed the report's findings. So did Senate Republicans, whose written dissent accused Democrats of inaccuracies, sloppy analysis and cherry-picking evidence to reach a predetermined conclusion. CIA officials prepared their own response acknowledging serious mistakes in the interrogation program, but contending it produced vital intelligence that still guides the agency's counterterrorism efforts.....snip~

    Senate report: Harsh CIA tactics didn't work

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    False. What was released today was the declassified Democratic Majority Executive summary of the 6000 page report, an entirely partisan digest of the full report.

    The minority summary of the 6000 page report has not been released.

    That's is correct JM and the Demos didn't interview anyone.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Not buying that worn out old line.
    He is quite right though. You have no moral ground to condemn if you support doing it yourself.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Does anyone actually believe that the tor.. I mean "enhanced interrogation techniques" ended with the election of the new president?

    I suppose they must. Some people will believe almost anything.
    Can't say. But the open excuse making for it did, and that is important in and of itself.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    The CIA seems to have deceived the administration on a number of points and to have knowingly broken the law in a number of cases.
    I will reserve my opinion till I have sighted the report.


    Well, Feinstein did make sure our enemies will have some things to be upset by. What should happen to her if any American is killed over her report?


    More brutal than previously known.....

    After al-Qaida operative Abu Zubaydah was arrested in Pakistan in March of that year, the agency received permission from the Justice Department and White House to use several coercive techniques on him, including waterboarding, sleep deprivation and close confinement — a menu of tactics drawn up by two psychologists helping the CIA as contractors. The U.S. government ultimately paid their companies $80 million. The report doesn't name them, but they are Bruce Jessen and James Mitchell.

    The CIA added unauthorized methods into the interrogation mix. At least five men in CIA detention received "rectal rehydration," a form of feeding through the rectum. The report found no medical necessity for the treatment.

    Others received "ice baths" and death threats. At least three in captivity were told their families would suffer, with CIA officers threatening to harm their children, sexually abuse the mother of one man and cut the throat of another man's mother.....snip~

    Senate report: Harsh CIA tactics didn't work


    They have just caused things to become more difficult to deal with out there. Truly more difficult.
    Note how the AP just threw out the names of the Doctors that were consulted.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    "The study reveals several gruesome instances of torture by mid-level CIA officers who participated in the program, including threats of sexual violence using a broomstick and the use of "rectal hydration" in instances of harsh interrogations that lasted for days or weeks on end. And, contrary to the agency's prior insistence that only three detainees were subject to waterboarding, the Senate report suggests it was likely used on more detainees.

    Rather than wrestling with the morality of the agency’s torture program or the operation's damaging effect on the U.S.’ international credibility, Senate investigators instead weighed whether the agency's tactics were effective. Through narrative examinations of 20 separate detainee cases, the panel attempted to make the case that the use of harsh interrogation techniques such as waterboarding did not yield valuable intelligence.

    Among the Senate report’s 20 main conclusions are that the CIA misled Congress, the White House and the Department of Justice, that the agency ignored internal critiques of the program, and that the CIA's use of the techniques went far beyond the legal authority bestowed upon it by the Bush White House."
    Senate Report Says Torture Program Was More Gruesome, Widespread Than CIA Claimed

    And the torture apologists come out of the woodwork. This time saying "oh stupid Dems!" or "this endangers American lives". Typical torture apoligists.


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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    He is quite right though. You have no moral ground to condemn if you support doing it yourself.
    Moral ground was lost decades ago.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Left?

    How is a JOINT report of Democrats AND Republicans, who are right leftist?

    According to former CIA Directors George J. Tenet, Porter J. Goss and Michael V. Hayden (a retired Air Force general), and former CIA Deputy Directors John E. McLaughlin, Albert M. Calland (a retired Navy vice admiral) and Stephen R. Kappes:

    Ex-CIA Directors: Interrogations Saved Lives - WSJ
    The Senate Intelligence Committee’s report on Central Intelligence Agency detention and interrogation of terrorists, prepared only by the Democratic majority staff, is a missed opportunity to deliver a serious and balanced study of an important public policy question.

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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    The only way this actually backfires on Democrats is if Republicans decide to pass laws banning this sort of thing during their term... if they don't, they're looking pretty bad for bitching about non-existent death panels, Obama's dictatorship etc...
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    Re: Senate panel releases scathing report on CIA interrogation...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Hey buddy, 2002 called and they want their talking points back.
    Such a well thought out response, I don't know what to say!
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