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    Re: 6 Gitmo detainees arrive in Uruguay for resettlement

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    There is a 30% rate in which those we release from GITMO goes back to the battlefield. A military man wonders why would you release a single one more with that rate. Isn't it enough you captured these guys once, now you are asking the military to do it twice all the while putting those who serve in the military in a more dangerous position than if they had remained contained.
    Many of the people detained at GITMO weren't captured on a battlefield and had nothing to do with Al Qaeda or the Taliban. They were purchased by the U.S. military from bounty hunters who were kidnapping civilians and selling them to the U.S. as "terrorists" for $5,000 a head no questions asked.

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    Re: 6 Gitmo detainees arrive in Uruguay for resettlement

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Many of the people detained at GITMO weren't captured on a battlefield and had nothing to do with Al Qaeda or the Taliban. They were purchased by the U.S. military from bounty hunters who were kidnapping civilians and selling them to the U.S. as "terrorists" for $5,000 a head no questions asked.
    They were also rivalry clans over there turning in one another with cartloads of lies just to get rid of their local opposition and make money doing it.
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    Re: 6 Gitmo detainees arrive in Uruguay for resettlement

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How many of the prisoners we took during WW2 were charged wit anything?

    Very bad analogy. WWII was a real war with a definable enemy, people in uniform, a declaration of war against a real political entity and most importantly, a real and definable "victory" (an end point), which occurred within 5 years of our involvement. All most none of those attributes are true here.

    The "war on terror" is much more like the "war on drugs", where everything is ambiguous. You can't just decide some guy is a threat to you and give him a life sentence. If you can not define victory, you do not have a real war, and you have no business acting like it is.

    ...as to your direct question, virtually all WWII prisoners of war were "charged" with being soldiers (with serial numbers and uniforms) of the enemy. There was little "surprise" on their part when they were interned.
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    Re: 6 Gitmo detainees arrive in Uruguay for resettlement

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Many of the people detained at GITMO weren't captured on a battlefield and had nothing to do with Al Qaeda or the Taliban. They were purchased by the U.S. military from bounty hunters who were kidnapping civilians and selling them to the U.S. as "terrorists" for $5,000 a head no questions asked.
    A pretty big claim. Your cite for that is???? Not at all doubting that could or did happen. I just want the claim backed-up.

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    Re: 6 Gitmo detainees arrive in Uruguay for resettlement

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    When you lock them up for 14 years without trial, its foolish to think that hate does not grow within them. I think its fair to expect they might return to harm us.
    See, that's what makes us different from them. How many people in the US have been unfairly locked up, in some cases for far more than 14 years? Have any of them come out of prison, when finally cleared, and immediately gone on a murderous rampage for revenge?
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    Re: 6 Gitmo detainees arrive in Uruguay for resettlement

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    There is a 30% rate in which those we release from GITMO goes back to the battlefield. A military man wonders why would you release a single one more with that rate. Isn't it enough you captured these guys once, now you are asking the military to do it twice all the while putting those who serve in the military in a more dangerous position than if they had remained contained.

    Perhaps a soldier would be better served just killing them all to begin with and thus ensuring they, the GITMO detainees do not return to the battlefield. Much like the drone program, kill but do not capture. That is the message being sent. From a military perspective.
    Actually, a 30% recidivism rate is about half of the one we have here in the U.S. Small sample size regarding Gitmo, but still.

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    Re: 6 Gitmo detainees arrive in Uruguay for resettlement

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In fact they are killing them rather than having them return to Gitmo for their possible release and then later murdering more Americans and their Allies. And a good thing too.

    It's surprising how many Americans, leftists of course, who do support the terrorists.
    Not disagreeing with the release of people who have never been charged with any sort of crime = "support the terrorists."

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    Re: 6 Gitmo detainees arrive in Uruguay for resettlement

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    See, that's what makes us different from them. How many people in the US have been unfairly locked up, in some cases for far more than 14 years? Have any of them come out of prison, when finally cleared, and immediately gone on a murderous rampage for revenge?
    The people who get let out of prison here aren't shipped off to South America to go to one of THEIR prisons.
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    Re: 6 Gitmo detainees arrive in Uruguay for resettlement

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The people who get let out of prison here aren't shipped off to South America to go to one of THEIR prisons.
    That wasn't the point - many here have been claiming that they should just be released from Gitmo to go on their merry way and if they attacked Americans again, well hey, no big deal because they were mistreated so it's to be expected.
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    Re: 6 Gitmo detainees arrive in Uruguay for resettlement

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    That wasn't the point - many here have been claiming that they should just be released from Gitmo to go on their merry way and if they attacked Americans again, well hey, no big deal because they were mistreated so it's to be expected.
    No, what's being claimed is that those people have a reason to be pissed, and those claiming it aren't necessarily wrong.
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