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    Re: Philly Mayor: ‘You Have Some Police Officers Who Are Increasingly Afraid...."

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    ok, explain why congress can't pass a federal regulation.
    Because congress doesn't pay for it and the US Constitution. This isn't anywhere a matter of interstate commerce no matter how you stretch it

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Because congress doesn't pay for it and the US Constitution. This isn't anywhere a matter of interstate commerce no matter how you stretch it
    but there are all kinds of federal regulations regarding the workplace. are those all invalid, too?

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    Re: Philly Mayor: ‘You Have Some Police Officers Who Are Increasingly Afraid...."

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I do agree with you it would help with a myriad of things, I'm just saying it won't fix the supposed larger issue of race. Strangely enough, police brutality is only a small side issue to that, despite the fact that played a much bigger role with the Garner case, and the fact that a black officer was in charge on the scene. I am curious though, you're not talking about doing this for every police force around the country are you?



    Obama's already asked congress for the 300 million or so for the plan, so they'll get the money. I think he's serious about this one.
    The 300 million, if it comes at all, will be in the form of grants and will not fund the programs continuing on. My home county fell for that a couple times. Took federal grants to hire new officers. A year later, the federal funding was gone and the layoffs began.

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    Re: Philly Mayor: ‘You Have Some Police Officers Who Are Increasingly Afraid...."

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    but there are all kinds of federal regulations regarding the workplace. are those all invalid, too?
    Interstate commerce. Really, do you not know how our systems of government work? Ever read the 10 Amendment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Interstate commerce. Really, do you not know how our systems of government work? Ever read the 10 Amendment?
    Ever read McCulloch v. Maryland?
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    Re: Philly Mayor: ‘You Have Some Police Officers Who Are Increasingly Afraid...."

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Ever read McCulloch v. Maryland?
    Yep, and another constitutional rewrite by the nine robed pretenders. Regardless, this isn't included in the implied powers either.

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    Re: Philly Mayor: ‘You Have Some Police Officers Who Are Increasingly Afraid...."

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yep, and another constitutional rewrite by the nine robed pretenders. Regardless, this isn't included in the implied powers either.
    One of those 9 was john Marshall, one of the founding fathers of the American government.
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    Re: Philly Mayor: ‘You Have Some Police Officers Who Are Increasingly Afraid...."

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Interstate commerce. Really, do you not know how our systems of government work? Ever read the 10 Amendment?
    this would be a federal regulation regarding the workplace for law enforcement officers. not exactly unprecedented.

    either way, it needs to happen. enough is enough with this he said she said crap when it comes to police actions.

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    Re: Philly Mayor: ‘You Have Some Police Officers Who Are Increasingly Afraid...."

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I've always been an advocate of getting the community more involved with some sort of neighborhood watch program that was designed to work in conjunction with the local citizens in giving them the equipment and training to defend their homes. Especially in Chicago where to get this under control, you have to have the community work with you. I'd actually be curious to hear what Chicago Blacks think of the police force there.


    From what I've heard, probably not so good. My understanding is that cooperation with investigations is extremely low in most of the worst areas.

    People either don't trust the police not to bust THEM for something, or they don't trust the police to PROTECT them if they testify... and given how things are these days, both of those are not unreasonable concerns.

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    Re: Philly Mayor: ‘You Have Some Police Officers Who Are Increasingly Afraid...."

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Parts of our major cities are already like that.
    The question is, why does anyone stay in a place that is unsafe, where the cops can't be trusted, where the whole area is under the control of violent gangs?
    I would only stay in such a place if I we a quadraplegic, and could not crawl out of there.

    I would also stay if I were a delusional leftist, or had a narcotics addiction, or was a gang member selling narcotics.
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