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    Re: Last of Senate's Deep South Democrats defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    What is more telling is that with Landrieu's defeat, no woman holds elected statewide office in Louisiana....
    Well, gender is secondary. People vote for values first. I would never vote for someone based on gender if I agreed more with the other candidate's values.
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    Re: Last of Senate's Deep South Democrats defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Well, gender is secondary. People vote for values first. I would never vote for someone based on gender if I agreed more with the other candidate's values.
    Yea keep telling yourself that. One of those "values" is that women are second class citizens and should not be in politics at all right?

    In no freaking way can values be the reason for that there is no statewide elected female and that female elected politicians are so rare in American politics (relatively speaking). And it is especially in the red states and conservative areas of the country where the problem is so clear that a blind woman can see it.

    The right wing in the US has to start dealing with their racist and anti-female attitudes to remain relevant in the future... democratically speaking. Of course if you just piss on democracy as the GOP seems to want to do, then dont bother.

    It says a whole bunch that there are more females in elected offices in traditionally male chauvinistic viewed Latin countries like Spain and Italy, than there are in the US. In fact places like Spain and Italy have almost double the amount of female elected politicians in their national parliaments than the US has... and it is far easier to get elected on local level than national level.

    No this is far more than just a "political values" issue.. far far more.... this is a serious problem... women are 50% of the population after all.
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    Re: Last of Senate's Deep South Democrats defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Yea keep telling yourself that. One of those "values" is that women are second class citizens and should not be in politics at all right?
    That would be wrong. You'll have to reference where you got that slanderous info about me. That is just a weird accusation, seemingly based on nothing.

    In no freaking way can values be the reason for that there is no statewide elected female and that female elected politicians are so rare in American politics (relatively speaking). And it is especially in the red states and conservative areas of the country where the problem is so clear that a blind woman can see it.

    The right wing in the US has to start dealing with their racist and anti-female attitudes to remain relevant in the future... democratically speaking. Of course if you just piss on democracy as the GOP seems to want to do, then dont bother.
    The right wing? If you are getting into race and gender, look at the democrat leadership, mostly white men, or half white.

    It says a whole bunch that there are more females in elected offices in traditionally male chauvinistic viewed Latin countries like Spain and Italy, than there are in the US. In fact places like Spain and Italy have almost double the amount of female elected politicians in their national parliaments than the US has... and it is far easier to get elected on local level than national level.
    Really couldn't care less about the make up of those other countries.

    No this is far more than just a "political values" issue.. far far more.... this is a serious problem... women are 50% of the population after all.
    I'm going to bet that there are more women now than there were a decade ago, and the decade before that, and before that, etc... It wasn't that long ago that there weren't any women at all. But at this point, that is secondary to the damage that the left is doing, and has been doing to this country for a long time. I vote values, not skin color or genitalia in elections. It's not a wet T-shirt contest.
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    Re: Last of Senate's Deep South Democrats defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Yea keep telling yourself that. One of those "values" is that women are second class citizens and should not be in politics at all right?

    In no freaking way can values be the reason for that there is no statewide elected female and that female elected politicians are so rare in American politics (relatively speaking). And it is especially in the red states and conservative areas of the country where the problem is so clear that a blind woman can see it.

    The right wing in the US has to start dealing with their racist and anti-female attitudes to remain relevant in the future... democratically speaking. Of course if you just piss on democracy as the GOP seems to want to do, then dont bother.

    It says a whole bunch that there are more females in elected offices in traditionally male chauvinistic viewed Latin countries like Spain and Italy, than there are in the US. In fact places like Spain and Italy have almost double the amount of female elected politicians in their national parliaments than the US has... and it is far easier to get elected on local level than national level.

    No this is far more than just a "political values" issue.. far far more.... this is a serious problem... women are 50% of the population after all.
    With such a view of Louisianians, its a wonder she got elected 3 times and garnered ~40% of the vote this year.

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    Re: Last of Senate's Deep South Democrats defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    That would be wrong. You'll have to reference where you got that slanderous info about me. That is just a weird accusation, seemingly based on nothing.
    Simple by you saying it was due to "values" without saying what values. Considering it is a conservative religious right state, then it is only logical to assume those values includes the 2nd class citizenship of women. That is after all a core conservative value dating back since the foundation of the Christian Church. Note by conservative in this case, I mean the basic definition of conservative not the political party or idea.

    The right wing? If you are getting into race and gender, look at the democrat leadership, mostly white men, or half white.
    Numbers dont lie. The Democrats might not be "Swedes" when it comes to gender equality, but they are in a far better state than the GOP when it comes to gender and race representation. Why is that? I remember reading about the GOP convention a few years back where the was a total of 3 blacks and half a dozen minorities among the delegates and women were in the big minority as well.. why is that? Those values you mention?

    Really couldn't care less about the make up of those other countries.
    And those conservative values strike again.. when you aint number one then others are irrelevant.. Sorry but it is very relevant if you as a true conservative believe in freedom and democracy and believe the US is the beacon in the darkness.. a beacon that cant live up to its own supposed ideals that it is pushing around the world.

    I'm going to bet that there are more women now than there were a decade ago, and the decade before that, and before that, etc... It wasn't that long ago that there weren't any women at all.
    Yes it has gotten better but no thanks to the GOP. Female representation is not exclusively to the Democratic party but it is certainly in the mass majority, just as it is for minority representation. This last election the GOP were so proud that they got their first female black house member I believe.... in 2014. When was it the first black female representative was elected in the US and by what party? Oh yea, 1968 and for the Democrats. Just because Bush put a few token black people and minorities in his cabinet, and that you elected a black president, does not mean that the race and anti-female attitudes are gone or massively diminished. All countries have to deal with it and some are far far further ahead on equality than the US.

    But at this point, that is secondary to the damage that the left is doing, and has been doing to this country for a long time. I vote values, not skin color or genitalia in elections. It's not a wet T-shirt contest.
    I understand you, but you are only one person and I suspect especially the 50+ year olds dont have the same views when it comes to females in politics. Have you ever seen the Iron Lady or other Margret Thatcher documentaries on her struggle in conservative politics in the UK? Do you really think it is and has been any different in the US among conservative? The numbers dont lie..... and this loss regardless of her politics was at least partially motivated by her gender as the numbers clearly show that people in that state dont elect females that much.
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    Re: Last of Senate's Deep South Democrats defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Good, it helps purge the remaining racists that didn't move over during nixons southern strategy
    Yes, because everyone knows how politically active 13 year old kids are.
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    Re: Last of Senate's Deep South Democrats defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Yes, because everyone knows how politically active 13 year old kids are.
    Its less true these days but kids often emulate their parents attitude

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    Re: Last of Senate's Deep South Democrats defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Its less true these days but kids often emulate their parents attitude
    I'm sure you can provide proof of Mary Landrieu's racism.
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    Re: Last of Senate's Deep South Democrats defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Simple by you saying it was due to "values" without saying what values. Considering it is a conservative religious right state, then it is only logical to assume those values includes the 2nd class citizenship of women. That is after all a core conservative value dating back since the foundation of the Christian Church. Note by conservative in this case, I mean the basic definition of conservative not the political party or idea.
    That's not a conservative value. But the left like to paint women as victims. How about the completely manufactured "War on Women" that they came up with? The despicable Sandra Fluck(?) brought in as a dog and pony show to plead for free contraceptives (as she studies at Georgetown Law School). Poor stupid women can't help getting pregnant without a government hand out. Nice message they put out about women.

    Truth is, the entire Senate is an old boys club, not a republican old boys club. What about Elizabeth Warren complaining about how she was treated by the leadership in the Senate? That wasn't republicans.

    If you think having more women in office equates to that party doing anything for women, you are in error. Making them victims and promising handouts doesn't help them. It also doesn't help to put absolute idiots like Nancy Pelosi in charge of things. That just helps perpetuate the myth that women aren't qualified. At least put someone in charge that has half a brain, not the idiots that the choose.
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    Re: Last of Senate's Deep South Democrats defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What I want to know is where are the thread baiters that were telling us all how crazy repubs were for thinking that repubs would take the Senate. Seems they are awfully quiet these days...peaceful isn't it?
    Where were people saying that Republicans were crazy for thinking that they would take the senate?
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