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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    In fact, I'd argue that people can be better without God. Belief in God tends to make people hate others for no good reason and discriminate against equality.
    You can test that theory by asking yourself which was the most murderous political movement in world history and then add to that by questioning why the Church was the among the first things to be outlawed.

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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If I start a giant orgy in the streets on your block, just don't look at it. If you're offended, it's because you CHOOSE to be offended.
    So looking at a Christmas display is the same as looking at a giant orgy? Leftists have never been very good at analogies.

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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You can test that theory by asking yourself which was the most murderous political movement in world history and then add to that by questioning why the Church was the among the first things to be outlawed.
    Um... Hitler was a Christian and the Catholic Church backed him openly until it was clear he was insane, then they turned around and smuggled Nazis out of post-WWII Germany under Catholic Red Cross Visas. If you're talking about Stalin, he didn't outlaw most religions at all, he only really went after the Russian Orthodox Church because it had the largest number of faithful and the whole point of communism is to guarantee loyalty to the state, which religion gets in the way of. He wasn't anti-religion, he was pro-communism.
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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Um... Hitler was a Christian and the Catholic Church backed him openly until it was clear he was insane, then they turned around and smuggled Nazis out of post-WWII Germany under Catholic Red Cross Visas. If you're talking about Stalin, he didn't outlaw most religions at all, he only really went after the Russian Orthodox Church because it had the largest number of faithful and the whole point of communism is to guarantee loyalty to the state, which religion gets in the way of. He wasn't anti-religion, he was pro-communism.
    Communism was the most murderous political movement in world history and the first thing Communists did on seizing power was outlaw the Churches. I assumed you knew all of this.

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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So looking at a Christmas display is the same as looking at a giant orgy? Leftists have never been very good at analogies.
    Reductio ad absurdum used to demonstrate the idiocy of his concept.

    Allowing Christian displays on public property while not allowing all other religions the same access is offensive to me. And you don't get to go picking and choosing what counts as a genuine religious belief like Kal'Stang is doing.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Communism was the most murderous political movement in world history and the first thing Communists did on seizing power was outlaw the Churches. I assumed you knew all of this.
    "Actions toward particular religions, however, were determined by State interests, and most organized religions were never outlawed. The main target of the anti-religious campaign in the 1920s and 1930s was the Russian Orthodox Church, which had the largest number of faithful." Anti-religious Campaigns - Library of Congress

    I'm not the ignorant one here.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Reductio ad absurdum used to demonstrate the idiocy of his concept.

    Allowing Christian displays on public property while not allowing all other religions the same access is offensive to me. And you don't get to go picking and choosing what counts as a genuine religious belief like Kal'Stang is doing.
    I agree that the Satanists should display their beer cans and a sign identifying themselves but they are doing it because they can do it, not that it makes any sense. They are displaying sophomoric ignorance, and it's legal. Stupid people in a democracy have rights too, and I support that concept.

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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

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    Stupid people in a democracy have rights too, and I support that concept.
    Even stupid people with imaginary friends.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    "Actions toward particular religions, however, were determined by State interests, and most organized religions were never outlawed. The main target of the anti-religious campaign in the 1920s and 1930s was the Russian Orthodox Church, which had the largest number of faithful." Anti-religious Campaigns - Library of Congress

    I'm not the ignorant one here.
    https://www.marxists.org/history/int...4/02/mason.htm

    Communist leaders were the ones to be recognized as deities, as we can see by the statues, the photos everywhere, and so on. There was no room for Christianity in Communist countries though n some cases religious worship was allowed, but certainly discouraged. We can see the type of hero worship on display today in South Korea.

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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Even stupid people with imaginary friends.
    Yes, even them.

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