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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, that's all been discussed.

    It's clear that anyone can put up a display but the question is, what drove them to do it?
    The state allowing religious displays on public property is probably what set them off.
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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by twixie1 View Post
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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    The state allowing religious displays on public property is probably what set them off.
    Who knows? They aren't very articulate..

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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Who knows? They aren't very articulate..
    Not "very articulate"? If you say so . . .
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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Not "very articulate"? If you say so . . .
    I say so.

    What is this "affirmative message that goes above and beyond that of superficial season's greetings"?

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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I say so.

    What is this "affirmative message that goes above and beyond that of superficial season's greetings"?
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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    A person can be good without God
    In fact, I'd argue that people can be better without God. Belief in God tends to make people hate others for no good reason and discriminate against equality.
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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    A person can be good without God
    No doubt. But does goodness come from Satan?

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    Re: Satanic Temple display approved for Florida Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Sorry but no one is forcing anyone to look at those nativity scenes. If you don't want to look at it then don't. Its as simple as that. Having a nativity scene is no different than having a totem pole on public property. (which I've seen and no one gives a flying flip about except to think "that's cool!") Its also no different than having a public building with a mural on it depicting the civil war or whatever.

    There are two ways in which someone being offended happens. 1: They are goaded into being offended. Such as what these atheists are doing towards Christians. 2: They CHOOSE to be offended. Which is what these atheists are doing towards nativity scenes. I mean come on, how can anyone be offended at a child being born in a manger unless they choose to be?

    All of you supporting this can spin and strawman your way all that you want through this. In the end it is as simple as this. These "Satanists" who really are not religious in the slightest but are actually extreme atheists are doing this not to promote freedom of religion. They are doing this to deny freedom of religion in any spot that they might happen to see it at in the only areas that they can possibly affect. If they had an actual nobel purpose and weren't all liars I might have supported them. But they don't and they are. Their only purpose is to cause derision of Christianity...interestingly enough (not really) all while ignoring any other religions out there that have their displays displayed publicly.
    If I start a giant orgy in the streets on your block, just don't look at it. If you're offended, it's because you CHOOSE to be offended.

    You sit there on your high horse declaring that the other guys are just liars and trolls, did it occur to you that all you are doing is just dictating to others what the correct beliefs are? Only be offended by what Kal'Stang says you should be offended by. Only care about religious freedom of those Kal'Stang says have it. You know what? Blocking other religions from access to public space while allowing Christian displays offends me because I'm an American.

    Which public displays of other religions do you think are being ignored?
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