Factory orders fall for third straight month

[DA60]

'(Reuters) - New orders for U.S. factory goods fell for a third straight month in October, pointing to a slowdown in manufacturing activity.

The Commerce Department said on Friday new orders for manufactured goods declined 0.7 percent after a revised 0.5 percent drop in September.'

U.S. factory orders fall for third straight month | Reuters


Well......there is always Walmart jobs.

 

[Thoreau72]

Well, the 321,000 new hires were probably waitresses and janitors...

 

[Reformedfindlay]

Not having a skill sucks ass don't it.

I know this is off topic but High School needs to be revised.

 

[Fenton]

Not having a skill sucks ass don't it.

I know this is off topic but High School needs to be revised.

Not High school, just the narrative that your kids will fail in life, or be unemployable without a College degree.

Thats such absolute BS, but the University's love it.

The cost to attend one has risen exponentially over the last 20 years.

Seems like a scam to me between the University's and the US Government.

The US Government agrees to push this narrative that college is compulsory and then will fork over the money via student loans and grants to the University's.

Millions of kids are graduating and starting off life with a mountain of debt and sometimes a useless degree.

 

[Unrepresented]

Not High school, just the narrative that your kids will fail in life, or be unemployable without a College degree.

Thats such absolute BS, but the University's love it.

The cost to attend one has risen exponentially over the last 20 years.

Seems like a scam to me between the University's and the US Government.

The US Government agrees to push this narrative that college is compulsory and then will fork over the money via student loans and grants to the University's.

Millions of kids are graduating and starting off life with a mountain of debt and sometimes a useless degree.

"Universities" is the plural of university -- "Universities function to educate us on proper usage of the English language."

"University's" is possessive -- "It's the University's function to educate us on proper usage of the English language."

I learned this before I attended a university.

 

[eohrnberger]

Not High school, just the narrative that your kids will fail in life, or be unemployable without a College degree.

Thats such absolute BS, but the University's love it.

The cost to attend one has risen exponentially over the last 20 years.

Seems like a scam to me between the University's and the US Government.

The US Government agrees to push this narrative that college is compulsory and then will fork over the money via student loans and grants to the University's.

Millions of kids are graduating and starting off life with a mountain of debt and sometimes a useless degree.

Well of course the Universities love it. It's packing their treasuries with money, much of which comes from the government in the form of student loans. While a student may default on their student loans, they'd be defaulting to the government, which guarantees the universities that income, rather than taking on the risk of students possibly defaulting.

The faulty meme that you are unemployable without a degree is exactly that. Do you really need a degree to be a carpenter or a plumber? Those are both well paying skilled trade jobs without the need for college degree, an apprenticeship, sure, but not a college degree, and they are very suitable for people of the disposition that work well with their hands rather than other types of work.

Just because the left don't acknowledge such jobs actually exist, insisting that everyone needs a college degree regardless if they have the aptitude for it or not, doesn't mean that these jobs don't exist.

 

[Fenton]

"Universities" is the plural of university -- "Universities function to educate us on proper usage of the English language."

"University's" is possessive -- "It's the University's function to educate us on proper usage of the English language."

I learned this before I attended a university.

Were you a troll back then too ?

 

[Fenton]

Well of course the Universities love it. It's packing their treasuries with money, much of which comes from the government in the form of student loans. While a student may default on their student loans, they'd be defaulting to the government, which guarantees the universities that income, rather than taking on the risk of students possibly defaulting.

The faulty meme that you are unemployable without a degree is exactly that. Do you really need a degree to be a carpenter or a plumber? Those are both well paying skilled trade jobs without the need for college degree, an apprenticeship, sure, but not a college degree, and they are very suitable for people of the disposition that work well with their hands rather than other types of work.

Just because the left don't acknowledge such jobs actually exist, insisting that everyone needs a college degree regardless if they have the aptitude for it or not, doesn't mean that these jobs don't exist.

Yep, its a narrative thats led to allot of Student debt, increased College tuitions and unfortunately for allot of people with useless and unmarketable degrees.

Kids are graduating with serious debt and no better off as far as job prospects go than they were when they started.

Plus, this " great economic recovery " has really driven up student debt as more kids turn into professional students knowing that there's nothing available for them when they leave school.

I thinks Liberal arts degrees should be seriously discounted to account for the lack of income your'e going to receive once you finally graduate with one.

Imagine the parents who fork up the money to send their kids off to Occidental for example only to see those kids move back in 6 years later.

Its impossible to get into Occidental and their tutition is through the roof. How in the hell do they accomplish that handing out degrees that aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

 

[Unrepresented]

Were you a troll back then too ?

Just pointing out that you're badmouthing the value of higher education while displaying lacking in some of the finer points of grammar.

Also:

Allot
al·lot
əˈlät/
verb
verb: allot; 3rd person present: allots; past tense: allotted; past participle: allotted; gerund or present participle: allotting

give or apportion (something) to someone as a share or task.
"equal time was allotted to each"


A lot
Adv. 1. a lot - to a very great degree or extent; "I feel a lot better"; "we enjoyed ourselves very much"; "she was very much interested"; "this would help a great deal"
a good deal, a great deal, lots, very much, much

 

[Meister]

Were you a troll back then too ?

Give him a break, he lives in California.

 

[Meister]

Not having a skill sucks ass don't it.

I know this is off topic but High School needs to be revised.

Perhaps, you could suggest paying the students $15.00 an hour to learn a "skill".

 

[Meister]

'(Reuters) - New orders for U.S. factory goods fell for a third straight month in October, pointing to a slowdown in manufacturing activity.

The Commerce Department said on Friday new orders for manufactured goods declined 0.7 percent after a revised 0.5 percent drop in September.'

U.S. factory orders fall for third straight month | Reuters


Well......there is always Walmart jobs.

I think the numbers expose the real state of our economy.
Not the shell game being played.

 

[Fenton]

Just pointing out that you're badmouthing the value of higher education while displaying lacking in some of the finer points of grammar.

Also:

Allot
al·lot
əˈlät/
verb
verb: allot; 3rd person present: allots; past tense: allotted; past participle: allotted; gerund or present participle: allotting

give or apportion (something) to someone as a share or task.
"equal time was allotted to each"


A lot
Adv. 1. a lot - to a very great degree or extent; "I feel a lot better"; "we enjoyed ourselves very much"; "she was very much interested"; "this would help a great deal"
a good deal, a great deal, lots, very much, much

No you misunderstand.

There's nothing wrong with getting a College degree.

My point was that its not for everyone AND the Narrative that you can't be successful let alone employable without one is Complete BS.

 

[Fenton]

Give him a break, he lives in California.

He does ? Wow, that's a hell of a handicap.

 

[Unrepresented]

No you misunderstand.

There's nothing wrong with getting a College degree.

My point was that its not for everyone AND the Narrative that you can't be successful let alone employable without one is Complete BS.

I'd rather the costs of higher education be shifted from students. If employers want to require an educated staff, let them help shoulder the burden.

He does ? Wow, that's a hell of a handicap.

I'm playing volleyball on the beach tomorrow morning, a week into December. California certainly has its upsides.

 

[nota bene]

I'd rather the costs of higher education be shifted from students. If employers want to require an educated staff, let them help shoulder the burden.

No. If students want to earn a professional position and salary, let them shoulder the burden of preparing themselves.

And BTW, there are employers who will be part or all of an advanced degree.

 

[joko104]

Increasingly, it is not only cheaper, but easier and faster to get manufactured goods from China than the USA.

 

[Ahlevah]

I'd rather the costs of higher education be shifted from students. If employers want to require an educated staff, let them help shoulder the burden.

Good luck on that one. There are plenty of educated Chinese and English-speaking Indians and Filipinos who want a job.

 

[Unrepresented]

No. If students want to earn a professional position and salary, let them shoulder the burden of preparing themselves.

And BTW, there are employers who will be part or all of an advanced degree.

Good luck on that one. There are plenty of educated Chinese and English-speaking Indians and Filipinos who want a job.

We make higher education "less expensive" to the individual by increasing the amount covered by the government. But we're not particularly on topic for the monthly factory order data.

 

[Ahlevah]

We make higher education "less expensive" to the individual by increasing the amount covered by the government. But we're not particularly on topic for the monthly factory order data.

But we're not particularly responsive to the needs of business, so I can't see charging them for it. They already do a lot of their own training. For example, my son received a degree from a state school in graphic arts and marketing which the taxpayers subsidized. Meanwhile, he makes great money working in the oil patch, but his employer trained him in the particulars of running the tools and computer software they use to drill the wells. Someone with only a high school diploma could do the job, but the employer requires experience or a college degree, normally in something like petroleum engineering or geology. It's overkill, really.

 

[Unrepresented]

But we're not particularly responsive to the needs of business, so I can't see charging them for it. They already do a lot of their own training. For example, my son received a degree from a state school in graphic arts and marketing which the taxpayers subsidized. Meanwhile, he makes great money working in the oil patch, but his employer trained him in the particulars of running the tools and computer software they use to drill the wells. Someone with only a high school diploma could do the job, but the employer requires experience or a college degree, normally in something like petroleum engineering or geology. It's overkill, really.

If industries want to demand through their hiring processes post high school education, let's start applying some of the corporate taxes towards lowering tuition costs.

 

[Ahlevah]

If industries want to demand through their hiring processes post high school education, let's start applying some of the corporate taxes towards lowering tuition costs.

The thing is subsidies don't lower costs. They tend to raise them by increasing demand for a good or service. I can see colleges taking the extra government money and raising tuition even more. Why? Because they can.

 

[Unrepresented]

The thing is subsidies don't lower costs. They tend to raise them by increasing demand for a good or service. I can see colleges taking the extra government money and raising tuition even more. Why? Because they can.

Private universities may do as they wish, of course, but public universities have to observe whatever mandates are demanded of them, and chances are, private universities will wish to stay competitive with public universities.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

Not having a skill sucks ass don't it.

I know this is off topic but High School needs to be revised.

Hold on.

Working in heavy manufacturing and machining is the definition of 'not having a skill'?

It encompass a huge variety of skills that not everyone is capable of performing. Everything from tech engineers who design freighters to the individuals who coordinate safe and expedient transport are skilled at what they do.

That's like saying someone who installs air conditioners are 'unskilled' labor - when they actually have to become legally certified in HVAC tech to be able to do so and are relied on for their abilities and knowledge.

Unskilled labor is something like being a stock boy or a cashier. But yet - we rely on them as well.

 

[ocean515]

Private universities may do as they wish, of course, but public universities have to observe whatever mandates are demanded of them, and chances are, private universities will wish to stay competitive with public universities.

Actually, public universities should emphasize the areas of knowledge in greatest need. Grants, scholarships, and low interest loans should be made available only to those areas of need. Science, technology, etc.. No student loans for the vast majority of liberal arts majors. If students want to pursue those majors, let them pay for their education on their own.

Without going into great detail, public universities need to eliminate any funding for classes that are a waste of taxpayer funds. An advisory board should be formed of business and technology leaders who can identify these areas of need. "Teachers/Professors" who want to teach the worthless degrees can find jobs at private universities or go get a different job. Scamming students and putting them into debt for decades should be considered a crime of opportunity, and treated as such.