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    Re: Factory orders fall for third straight month

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Again, you have to consider the reason a student would turn to a for profit school, over a far less costly community college. Why do you think this influencing factor appears to be absent in studies like the one you posted?
    Marketing and recruiters.

    Community college budgets don't include a large portion dedicated to headhunting clients.
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    Re: Factory orders fall for third straight month

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    '(Reuters) - New orders for U.S. factory goods fell for a third straight month in October, pointing to a slowdown in manufacturing activity.

    The Commerce Department said on Friday new orders for manufactured goods declined 0.7 percent after a revised 0.5 percent drop in September.'

    U.S. factory orders fall for third straight month | Reuters


    Well......there is always Walmart jobs.
    How could this be, unemployment is down to virtually nothing? All factories should be running full steam ahead! Maybe all this news about recovery is just a big lie.
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    Re: Factory orders fall for third straight month

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Marketing and recruiters.

    Community college budgets don't include a large portion dedicated to headhunting clients.
    Indeed true. Not needed. At least here in Southern California, it's very difficult to get a single class. One of many explanations for the increase in for profit colleges.

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    Re: Factory orders fall for third straight month

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Indeed true. Not needed. At least here in Southern California, it's very difficult to get a single class. One of many explanations for the increase in for profit colleges.
    It's a vicious cycle. The more demand shifts away from community colleges, the less funding can be justified to address the concerns (class availability, campus convenience, certificates and programs offered).
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    Re: Factory orders fall for third straight month

    Well they fell because they are buying from us Canadians because our dollar has taken a very big hit and will only get worse as oil prices fall. On the upside it has been very beneficial to the Canadian economy.

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    Re: Factory orders fall for third straight month

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    It's a vicious cycle. The more demand shifts away from community colleges, the less funding can be justified to address the concerns (class availability, campus convenience, certificates and programs offered).
    Funding has been significant. When the waiting lines for classes is as large as it is, and tuition has increased dramatically, it's hard to argue funding is a problem.

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    Re: Factory orders fall for third straight month

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Funding has been significant. When the waiting lines for classes is as large as it is, and tuition has increased dramatically, it's hard to argue funding is a problem.
    Tuition has increased dramatically (something that I'm again opposed to) but not funding, especially in contrast to the demand. The higher tuition was used to subsidize lowered general fund spending on education, not to enhance it.



    This is an issue with state funding for education, which needed to be remedied and returned to historical levels, especially in California:



    Even so, the cost for the CCC is still a much better value for students than the For Profit equivalent:


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    Re: Factory orders fall for third straight month

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Tuition has increased dramatically (something that I'm again opposed to) but not funding, especially in contrast to the demand. The higher tuition was used to subsidize lowered general fund spending on education, not to enhance it.



    This is an issue with state funding for education, which needed to be remedied and returned to historical levels, especially in California:



    Even so, the cost for the CCC is still a much better value for students than the For Profit equivalent:

    No question publicly subsidized colleges and universities offer a better value than a for profit alternative. At the same time, this push by various groups to denigrate for profit alternatives is rather interesting. When it's obvious the greater problem of debt and default is found in students attending public schools, the argument regarding the low handing fruit makes no sense.

    So if you know, what is the real reason for the push against for profits. The debt/default approach has no validity.

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    Re: Factory orders fall for third straight month

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    No question publicly subsidized colleges and universities offer a better value than a for profit alternative. At the same time, this push by various groups to denigrate for profit alternatives is rather interesting. When it's obvious the greater problem of debt and default is found in students attending public schools, the argument regarding the low handing fruit makes no sense.

    So if you know, what is the real reason for the push against for profits. The debt/default approach has no validity.
    We seem to be interpreting the data differently.
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    Re: Factory orders fall for third straight month

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    We seem to be interpreting the data differently.
    It would seem so. That is why I asked the question. Seems there are lots of graphs and data designed to make for profit trade/college institutions look bad. I am wondering who is behind the push.

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