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    Re: US chimpanzee Tommy 'has no human rights' - court

    Quote Originally Posted by ataturk View Post
    If a serverwely mentally handicapped person can have rights then so can chimps.
    No they cannot. While chimps have 99% of the same chromosomal structure as humans, it's the 1% difference that IS the difference. A severely handicapped person is still a human... a perfectly normal chimp is still a chimp.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: US chimpanzee Tommy 'has no human rights' - court

    Quote Originally Posted by ataturk View Post
    If a serverwely mentally handicapped person can have rights then so can chimps.
    Is it because this chimp wears cute clothes and is humanized..

    You obviously don't know a lot about chimps..they have 4 times the strength of the average human male..they can rip your arm off and beat you to death with the sticky ends..

    In the wild..chimps go hunting in groups..often targetting other simian species..they are very organised..and when they catch their meal it is ripped apart live by the group..

    They are wild animals, and should be treated with respect for their advanced IQ...

    But human rights?...Really??

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    Re: US chimpanzee Tommy 'has no human rights' - court

    Chimps kill each other. When are we going to set up chimpanzee prisons to incarcerate the perpetrators of chimpanzee murders in defense of their rights?
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: US chimpanzee Tommy 'has no human rights' - court

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Me too. I'm one of the biggest animal rights people probably on this board, but I can't even see this one as being wrong. Chimps simply can't be given human rights. Chimps has no power of reasoning and limited to the smallest degree capability to articulate thoughts.
    We've been agreeing and too cordial lately. Let's find something to sensessly argue about for a few hours. It'll make me feel better about agreeing with so many Libertarians lately.
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    Re: US chimpanzee Tommy 'has no human rights' - court

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    We've been agreeing and too cordial lately. Let's find something to sensessly argue about for a few hours. It'll make me feel better about agreeing with so many Libertarians lately.
    I just argued with you in the Garner thread. About your misinterpretations about my opinion on what happened.
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    Re: US chimpanzee Tommy 'has no human rights' - court

    Quote Originally Posted by twixie1 View Post
    Is it because this chimp wears cute clothes and is humanized..

    You obviously don't know a lot about chimps..they have 4 times the strength of the average human male..they can rip your arm off and beat you to death with the sticky ends..

    In the wild..chimps go hunting in groups..often targetting other simian species..they are very organised..and when they catch their meal it is ripped apart live by the group..

    They are wild animals, and should be treated with respect for their advanced IQ...

    But human rights?...Really??
    No rights. By Deinition Human rights can only apply to Humans. I think men should have rights but womens rights deal with only things applicable to women only. Human rioghts should only apply to those things that only CAN apply to humans. Most human rights should be applied to Chimps but not all.

    personally I don;t like chimps. for the same reasons that I do like Bonobos. I think Chimps exhibit the worst qualities of primates. they still deserve rights.

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    Re: US chimpanzee Tommy 'has no human rights' - court

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Chimps kill each other. When are we going to set up chimpanzee prisons to incarcerate the perpetrators of chimpanzee murders in defense of their rights?
    Plenty of Chimps are kept in prisons. We call them Zoos

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    Re: US chimpanzee Tommy 'has no human rights' - court

    Quote Originally Posted by ataturk View Post
    Plenty of Chimps are kept in prisons. We call them Zoos
    Have the chimps organize and file a writ then to the court for cruel and inhuman.... errr... cruel and inprimate conditions. I'm sure the chimps can get someone through the bar exam and licensed to petition the court on their behalf.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: US chimpanzee Tommy 'has no human rights' - court

    What next, human-primate marriage rights? That's what this will lead to.
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    Re: US chimpanzee Tommy 'has no human rights' - court

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    What next, human-primate marriage rights? That's what this will lead to.
    I'd be surprised if it hasn't happened already somewhere....

    Monkey Marriage In India Forces Owners, Monkeys Into Hiding

    Oops.... first hit on a search....
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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