Protests in support of Eric Garner erupt in New York and elsewhere

Hamster Buddha said:

The NYPD wasn't going to tolerate it for one. Two, being away from the epicenter, there's less emotion involved I would suspect. And Three, everyone knows the eyes are on them, so their very careful to stay on the straight and narrow.

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What do you mean they werent going to "tolerate it"? Seems to me the tolerated the peaceful protestors marching every which way...

TheDemSocialist said:

So after reading this thread it seemed some were cheering for a riot so they can get their daily fill of riot porn, yet there are no riots in NYC. What happened?

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One of the things, NYPD made themselves visible without looking like and occupational riot police force itching for a fight, and let the marches march.

TheDemSocialist said:

What do you mean they werent going to "tolerate it"? Seems to me the tolerated the peaceful protestors marching every which way...

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But like Reverend said, they made themselves highly visible throughout the process. And there were some arrest that were made. Though I suspect the protesters themselves were more than happy to weed out the bad ones to the cops, unlike in Ferguson.

b_dubz said:

Lastly capitalism will always be racist as long as racism exists, in fact it promotes racism. The reason is in capitalism your always being taught your better than others. The system even rewards people that way, generally for doing less work. This sort of mentality goes hand in hand with racism.

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Capitalism teaches nothing. Capitalism rewards those who create wealth, whether by their own labor, directing the labor of others or via the use of already created wealth. How any of that is related to racism is beyond me.

Many black-on-black shootings occurred yesterday, and none of these protesters give a **** about that.

b_dubz said:

I hope he does and I hope they riot and kill them. I would be right their with them with a rock if they did. The pigs need to be brought to justice!

That cartoon is horribly inaccurate and kinda racist...

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Now that required some emotion combined with little thought. Pigs? What are you seventy?

Are you arguing that the rioters have not plundered their neighbors only more directly than the government usually does? I have seen plenty of video showing people helping themselves to other peoples stuff. Most of the looters were black.

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

"Liberals should stop taxing things and then making it a felony to sell the things that are so highly taxed in a way that avoids paying the taxes.

Can we agree that the root cause of Garner's death was liberalism and decades of overeating/overdrinking?


I see it differently. Our politicians abuse the citizenry every day with new laws, new rules, new regulations, that take our wealth, take our time and take our patience. Politicians require someone to enforce the tens of thousands of laws they create, criminalizing everything. The police are merely the agents of the politicians. If you want to do some good go find some liberal politicians and have your moment of justice."

b_dubz said:

The root cause of garners death was corrupt, racist pigs.

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So Garner was not two hundred pounds overweight?

What is your evidence for racism?

And politics like neocons and democratic centrists that allows such things to flourish.

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Do you realize that the sentence above, as written, makes no sense?

Honestly I don't think you understand what the word liberal means...

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I group all authoritarian statists on one side of the equation. It matters very little to me what your tactics are. You might call yourself a liberal, a Progressive, a national socialist, an international socialist, a fascist, or a left-libertarian. You are all the same. You stand against the individual and for an ever larger, more powerful state.

Yes because conservative prolitcians have never pushed racist policy's that support the police... Oh wait their the main purveyors of such policy's that's right!

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Can you tell me which racist policies have been supported by conservative politicians?

Given the current lawlessness beginning within the White House and on down through the Democratic Congress on down to radical leftists and the black useful idiots, a wise person would be thanking the police for the services they render.

At the same time it is clear that an evil and rapacious liberal government made it a crime to sell cigarettes without paying the confiscatory taxes. It then made it a felony to be a repeat offender. The police are there to enforce the laws, even the evil ones created by liberal governments intent upon dominance, control, and subjugation of its taxpaying citizenry.

Furthermore the whole "taking your wealth" thing. Most wealth in america is Ill gotten and at the expense of others.

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It seldom takes long for the authoritarian statists to reveal themselves.

The government needs to take

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Right. All levels of government have become increasingly evil. And you support the plunder.

some on order to support things like schools and the impoverished. Things that benefit everybody.

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If this were true the tax codes at every level would not need to be complicated. We can determine how much we want to pay for any level of government, determine how much of our money we must all give up and then have everybody pay the exact same percentage. We could fund the government and determine our taxes in a few minutes.

Frankly they don't take enough and they misuse large portions of what they do.

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I shall guess that you earn little to nothing but lack the courage to directly steal from your neighbors. It is alway easier to have the government commit your thefts for you.

The pigs are agents of themselves. They lobby (very successfully) for laws that benefit them, and do as the please. They have no one to answer to except the fop, which almost always pardons them and has the "right" to step in on legal proceedings and do as it pleases, blocking prosecution of pigs that should be in jail.

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In my opinion this is simple ignorance on parade.

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

FreedomFromAll said:

We never have had Laissez-faire in the US government. We have had plenty of supporters of Laissez-faire, but our track record speaks quite the opposite. Hell even the US Constitution gives power to the federal government to interfere in the markets. So thanx for the propaganda but it didnt work. Oh and racism is racism which has zero to do with capitalism.

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The Commerce Clause was intended to make sure the states did not prey upon one another. It was not intended to become the centerpiece of a fascist government.

b_dubz said:

Because its not true. Their were a very small percentage of people looting. Their were much larger amounts of protestors guarding stores to stop looters.

Furthermore the real looting in Ferguson is what has been done to the black community their from systemic racism. Personally I hope this starts a wider revolution in America. Lord knows we need it.

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Before the revolution I gently suggest that you spend some time to get an education. After the revolution it will be too late.

b_dubz said:

I have no idea what you mean...

But all pigs are traitors to the people... Along with the politicians...

The pigs are traitors because of their allegiance to the FOP and because of their enforcement of obviously unconstitutional laws...

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If the laws are unconstitutional shouldn't overturning them be your target? Police enforce the laws on the books. And liberals have made many of the worst of them. Imagine how swift the retribution would have been if Garner's last drink had been over that size allowed by New York City law...

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Luftwaffe said:

Well, in regards to Eric Garner, it seems like their PROTESTING (so long as it is protesting) is justified.

Michale Brown on the other hand was a moron who deserved to die for doing what he did. Any subsequent protesting/rioting was hardly justifiable.

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They wouldn't be protesting if either Garner, or Brown were white. That fact makes the protests nothing more than rebellion that should be dealt with as all treason is.

b_dubz said:

I have no idea what you mean...

But all pigs are traitors to the people... Along with the politicians...

The pigs are traitors because of their allegiance to the FOP and because of their enforcement of obviously unconstitutional laws...

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What would be a good way to described Leftist outrage at policemen enforcing the laws that politicians make?

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apdst said:

They wouldn't be protesting if either Garner, or Brown were white. That fact makes the protests nothing more than rebellion that should be dealt with as all treason is.

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Absolutely not, peaceful protest is protected under the very god of American laws, the sacred constitution.

So long as they protest and not riot it is their God-given (I don't care if your atheist I'll word it this way) right to do so.

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CMPancake said:

The Eric Garner case is far more clear cut and evident than that of the Michael Brown case and it's a travesty they didn't even bring the officer in for court. Unless Garner was being arrested, police should not be placing their hands on anybody let alone choke them out. The Officers involved should have been held accountable for what he had done. Especially more so that the entire incident was recorded and shared through the internet.

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And, when he was brought before a jury trial and found innocent--INNOCENT--then what? Elastize the system so that a conviction could be accomplished at will?

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Luftwaffe said:

Absolutely not, peaceful protest is protected under the very god of American laws, the sacred constitution.

So long as they protest and not riot it is their God-given (I don't care if your atheist I'll word it this way) right to do so.

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I haven't seen any peaceful protest, yet.

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Misterveritis said:

The Commerce Clause was intended to make sure the states did not prey upon one another. It was not intended to become the centerpiece of a fascist government.

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Well its a good thing that you told me that, I would have never known. :roll:

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FreedomFromAll said:

Well its a good thing that you told me that, I would have never known. :roll:

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LOL. Consider it a public service. Not for you but for all who read these messages.

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b_dubz said:

I don't care what you think. It's the truth. The pigs are very corrupt and need to be dealt with, along with the systemic greed that is capitalism.

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:roll:Well, then come to Florida. You can kill all the wild hogs you want. No bag limit. They're a real problem around here.

Hamster Buddha said:

How was it racist, if it's true? I saw the videos of looting going on in Ferguson, there was a lot of blacks there. And keep in mind, there are blacks protesting as well. The message of the cartoon is the stark contrast between the majority (and the majority were protesting) and those few who are using this situation to get free stuff. Do you deny the majority of the looters aren't black? I'd like to see your evidence.

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Never ask an honest question if you're not prepared to receive an honest answer.

First, the cartoon focuses on the looters more than the nonviolent protesters. Yet the looters represented a tiny fraction of the overall population of Ferguson, if they were even residents and not people from out-of-town. And where are all the political cartoons about the Ferguson library that has become a refuge of peace? Or some of the churches? Or some of the residents' homes? I guess that doesn't fit the corporate media's narrative of the big scary black man.

Second, I wonder how many political cartoons Mr. Cagle has done exposing the hopelessness, despair, and righteous anger that pervades the black community. Does he have the slightest idea what it's like to know that one could be the next Michael Brown? Or Eric Garner? Or Trayvon Martin? Does he know what it's like to have his resume rejected not because of his lack of credentials but because of his name? Or be less hireable than a white person with a criminal record, even if he is lucky enough not to have fallen into the prison-industrial complex? And none of this gives any deference to the system of power that keeps blacks "in their place," simply because you and I will never ever be able to truly understand the powerful psychological toll it has on its targets.

If you choose to not see this, then you choose to understand none of the issues surrounding race at all. But, you have the privilege of doing that. Lucky you!

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apdst said:

And, when he was brought before a jury trial and found innocent--INNOCENT--then what? Elastize the system so that a conviction could be accomplished at will?

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You want to deflate the government while keeping the system as is? Interesting.

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CMPancake said:

You want to deflate the government while keeping the system as is? Interesting.

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I might have known your response would make absolutely no sense.

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apdst said:

I might have known your response would make absolutely no sense.

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If you truly are a Conservative who wants to shrink the Government system, hold Public Officials servants accountable for their actions. That's simple enough, no?

Phys251 said:

Never ask an honest question if you're not prepared to receive an honest answer.

First, the cartoon focuses on the looters more than the nonviolent protesters. Yet the looters represented a tiny fraction of the overall population of Ferguson, if they were even residents and not people from out-of-town. And where are all the political cartoons about the Ferguson library that has become a refuge of peace? Or some of the churches? Or some of the residents' homes? I guess that doesn't fit the corporate media's narrative of the big scary black man.

Second, I wonder how many political cartoons Mr. Cagle has done exposing the hopelessness, despair, and righteous anger that pervades the black community. Does he have the slightest idea what it's like to know that one could be the next Michael Brown? Or Eric Garner? Or Trayvon Martin? Does he know what it's like to have his resume rejected not because of his lack of credentials but because of his name? Or be less hireable than a white person with a criminal record, even if he is lucky enough not to have fallen into the prison-industrial complex? And none of this gives any deference to the system of power that keeps blacks "in their place," simply because you and I will never ever be able to truly understand the powerful psychological toll it has on its targets.

If you choose to not see this, then you choose to understand none of the issues surrounding race at all. But, you have the privilege of doing that. Lucky you!

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It conveyed rather well what actually happened minus burning buildings down.

I love your use of the buzz words though. Hopelessness. Despair. Righteous Anger! and corporate. No leftist screed is complete without "corporate".

Blacks keep voting for Democrats. Is it any wonder they are "hopeless"?

Misterveritis said:

It conveyed rather well what actually happened minus burning buildings down.

I love your use of the buzz words though. Hopelessness. Despair. Righteous Anger! and corporate. No leftist screed is complete without "corporate".

Blacks keep voting for Democrats. Is it any wonder they are "hopeless"?

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You keep barfing up the same horse**** platitudes about "leftists" and "Democrats," yet continuing to do so does not make them less stupid.

"It conveyed rather well what actually happened minus burning buildings down.

I love your use of the buzz words though. Hopelessness. Despair. Righteous Anger! and corporate. No leftist screed is complete without "corporate".

Blacks keep voting for Democrats. Is it any wonder they are "hopeless"?"

Kobie said:

You keep barfing up the same horse**** platitudes about "leftists" and "Democrats," yet continuing to do so does not make them less stupid.

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It is true that nothing I write here can make leftists, Democrats, or the 90+ percent of blacks who vote for them any less stupid.

But I was too polite to point their stupidity out.