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    Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    We can't all be pure and noble like you.
    This is certainly true.

    I prefer for the police department not attack citizens for minor **** like selling cigarettes
    Liberals should stop taxing things and then making it a felony to sell the things that are so highly taxed in a way that avoids paying the taxes.

    Can we agree that the root cause of Garner's death was liberalism and decades of overeating/overdrinking?

    or not walking on the sidewalk. It's evident you prefer a police state where you suck up to the police regardless of what happened.

    What so many refuse to see is that any good police officers are tainted by these wild west cops who are on a power trip.
    I see it differently. Our politicians abuse the citizenry every day with new laws, new rules, new regulations, that take our wealth, take our time and take our patience. Politicians require someone to enforce the tens of thousands of laws they create, criminalizing everything. The police are merely the agents of the politicians. If you want to do some good go find some liberal politicians and have your moment of justice.

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    Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Nice rant. You never know when some crazy right-wing nut might attack. I have a CHL, how about you?
    A customized AR-15 optimized for long distance shooting. I'll probably get a license for a suppressor before I get a CHL. I only have a .44 Desert Eagle and a 1911-22 as hand guns. One not very concealable and the other not very useful until I get better control.

    Wow, really, a lefty with a CHL. You know they might kick you out of the club if they read that. Then what are you going to do.

    Not much of a rant, and I notice you make no attempt to actually answer any of the questions.
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    Re: Protests in support of Eric Garner erupt in New York and elsewhere

    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Polish View Post
    Protests in support of Eric Garner erupt in New York and elsewhere - The Washington Post
    It seems that black protests are covering the whole country. We see how every negative gesture towards the minority of color will exacerbate this conflict. While plans of our administration are not clear protesters are flooding the streets of the largest city in the country. Will Obama send his militarized police forces with newly bought body-cameras to the "Big Apple". It is worth to shoot a new blockbuster.

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    I hope he does and I hope they riot and kill them. I would be right their with them with a rock if they did. The pigs need to be brought to justice!

    That cartoon is horribly inaccurate and kinda racist...

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    Re: Protests in support of Eric Garner erupt in New York and elsewhere

    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Polish View Post
    Protests in support of Eric Garner erupt in New York and elsewhere - The Washington Post
    It seems that black protests are covering the whole country. We see how every negative gesture towards the minority of color will exacerbate this conflict. While plans of our administration are not clear protesters are flooding the streets of the largest city in the country. Will Obama send his militarized police forces with newly bought body-cameras to the "Big Apple". It is worth to shoot a new blockbuster.
    That political cartoon is racist. Shame on you for posting it without giving it the scorn that it deserves.
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    Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    This is certainly true.


    Liberals should stop taxing things and then making it a felony to sell the things that are so highly taxed in a way that avoids paying the taxes.

    Can we agree that the root cause of Garner's death was liberalism and decades of overeating/overdrinking?


    I see it differently. Our politicians abuse the citizenry every day with new laws, new rules, new regulations, that take our wealth, take our time and take our patience. Politicians require someone to enforce the tens of thousands of laws they create, criminalizing everything. The police are merely the agents of the politicians. If you want to do some good go find some liberal politicians and have your moment of justice.
    The root cause of garners death was corrupt, racist pigs. And politics like neocons and democratic centrists that allows such things to flourish. Honestly I don't think you understand what the word liberal means...

    Yes because conservative prolitcians have never pushed racist policy's that support the police... Oh wait their the main purveyors of such policy's that's right!

    Furthermore the whole "taking your wealth" thing. Most wealth in america is Ill gotten and at the expense of others. The government needs to take some on order to support things like schools and the impoverished. Things that benefit everybody. Frankly they don't take enough and they misuse large portions of what they do.

    The pigs are agents of themselves. They lobby (very successfully) for laws that benefit them, and do as the please. They have no one to answer to except the fop, which almost always pardons them and has the "right" to step in on legal proceedings and do as it pleases, blocking prosecution of pigs that should be in jail.

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    Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    These protests/riots will go nowhere good for one reason: exploitation. Leftist groups (anarchists, communists, socialists, anti-capitalists, progressives) are exploiting the race card in order to bring about their type of change or revolution. The actual plight of Americans of color has no real meaning to them, it is just a tool and nothing more to reach a ends. The less radicals involved will deny that the radicals exists or at least try to convince us that those black blocs are just agitators ignore them. They'll go on and on about race inequalities and how awful America is for it. They are a bunch of haters themselves, they hate Americans and they hate capitalism above anything else. And this is just a opportunity (for leftists) to push blame on capitalism.
    The blame should be on capitalism. That's why so many black groups are socialist, because socialism offers answers to their problems, where capitalism offers the middle finger...

    Capitalism is the biggest problem with america hands down. Whoever said "let us be" (lazze fair) should have been shot on the spot...

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    Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    A customized AR-15 optimized for long distance shooting. I'll probably get a license for a suppressor before I get a CHL. I only have a .44 Desert Eagle and a 1911-22 as hand guns. One not very concealable and the other not very useful until I get better control.
    A Ruger LCP fits nicely in the pocket.

    Wow, really, a lefty with a CHL. You know they might kick you out of the club if they read that. Then what are you going to do.
    How are they going to kick me out, I'm the one with the gun.

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    Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    The blame should be on capitalism. That's why so many black groups are socialist, because socialism offers answers to their problems, where capitalism offers the middle finger...

    Capitalism is the biggest problem with america hands down. Whoever said "let us be" (lazze fair) should have been shot on the spot...
    We never have had Laissez-faire in the US government. We have had plenty of supporters of Laissez-faire, but our track record speaks quite the opposite. Hell even the US Constitution gives power to the federal government to interfere in the markets. So thanx for the propaganda but it didnt work. Oh and racism is racism which has zero to do with capitalism.

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    Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Nor from what I've seen, on COPS anyway, do they always do so until they have control of an agitated, hostile and aggressive suspect. Further, you nor I, know what was actually said before the video begins. It is very clear however that he is already arguing with the officers about the nature of the offense for which they were either arresting him or questioning him (we don't know which, since the person shooting the video didn't catch that part or it wasn't made public).

    Have you thought about the situation from the point of view of the cops involved, taking into account what they would know at the time? If so many are upset at what the police do, how many of them attempt to join the police? How many of them are willing or able to do what cops do everyday? Is it possible that some people are expecting superhuman perfection from humans doing a tough and dangerous job?
    The officer who put the chockhold on him later said they were going to detain him for questioning because they had a report from a shop owner that he was selling cigarettes. However, he did not say they had told Garner he was being detained. Early news reports stated the police had told Mr. Garner he couldn't stand on the public sidewalk where he was due to the shop owner there said he was hurting his business by selling cigarettes (as a 3rd hand report) - telling Garner he had to move on.

    Garner argue back that he wasn't doing anything illegal, that he believed the police were harassing him every time they saw him, and that he has a right to be there as anyone else. That is - again according to early news coverage - when the video picks up.

    The police nor DA have ever issued any statement contradicting any of that.

    This instance was nothing like Ferguson. Garner was threatening no one. It was police who initiated violence. Not only was this about a possible misdemeanor, the police there had not seen him commit any offense. Nor was Garner under arrest or told he was under arrest.

    His "crime" was a police officer told him that he couldn't stand where he was on the sidewalk and he responded for them to stop harassing him every time they see him. In a sense, his crime at that moment was existing in public and claiming he had a right to - after a police officer told him that he didn't telling him to leave the area. Garner had the strange view that he had to be caught doing something illegal before ordered off the sidewalk or arrested.
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    Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    The root cause of garners death was corrupt, racist pigs. And politics like neocons and democratic centrists that allows such things to flourish. Honestly I don't think you understand what the word liberal means...

    Yes because conservative prolitcians have never pushed racist policy's that support the police... Oh wait their the main purveyors of such policy's that's right!

    Furthermore the whole "taking your wealth" thing. Most wealth in america is Ill gotten and at the expense of others. The government needs to take some on order to support things like schools and the impoverished. Things that benefit everybody. Frankly they don't take enough and they misuse large portions of what they do.

    The pigs are agents of themselves. They lobby (very successfully) for laws that benefit them, and do as the please. They have no one to answer to except the fop, which almost always pardons them and has the "right" to step in on legal proceedings and do as it pleases, blocking prosecution of pigs that should be in jail.
    I do not see that as a credible message and it reads like rank baiting with an extreme view seeking a reaction for attention.

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