Protests in support of Eric Garner erupt in New York and elsewhere

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Texmex said:

That's what's likely to happen, just not in the venue you prefer.

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Again, BS. You have no idea what I prefer, but it's not difficult at all to see what you prefer. You're fully steeped in the stereotypical.

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

humbolt said:

Again, BS. You have no idea what I prefer, but it's not difficult at all to see what you prefer. You're fully steeped in the stereotypical.

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We can't all be pure and noble like you. :roll:

I prefer for the police department not attack citizens for minor **** like selling cigarettes or not walking on the sidewalk. It's evident you prefer a police state where you suck up to the police regardless of what happened.

What so many refuse to see is that any good police officers are tainted by these wild west cops who are on a power trip.

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

Samhain said:

I really like the NYC Mayor telling people "Anyone who believes in the values of this country should feel called to action right now. We are dealing with centuries of racism that has brought us to this day. That is how fundamental the crisis is."

He clearly doesn't understand that he just told people to protest against himself.

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Moreso than you realize, he ordered the police to crack down on loosies and untaxed cigarettes.

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

CMPancake said:

The Eric Garner case is far more clear cut and evident than that of the Michael Brown case and it's a travesty they didn't even bring the officer in for court. Unless Garner was being arrested, police should not be placing their hands on anybody let alone choke them out. The Officers involved should have been held accountable for what he had done. Especially more so that the entire incident was recorded and shared through the internet.

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Mike brown case was clear cut, he robbed a store and charged a cop and got killed for his aggressive criminal thug ways.


Eric Garner got killed over loosies.

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

Texmex said:

We can't all be pure and noble like you. :roll:

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Not the point at all, and in contrast, we can't all be cynical like you, either.

I prefer for the police department not attack citizens for minor **** like selling cigarettes or not walking on the sidewalk. It's evident you prefer a police state where you suck up to the police regardless of what happened.

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Again BS. How you acquire evidence that I prefer a police state is absolute hyperbole.

What so many refuse to see is that any good police officers are tainted by these wild west cops who are on a power trip.

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There may be some additional evidence that Pantaleo is not a good cop, but not being part of the law enforcement community - for which I have sincere respect - I'll let Pantaleo's peers make that determination at this point. I trust them to do that for the very reason you mention.

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

Texmex said:

Wake up! Haven't you read any of DVSentinel's postings before? They are dripping with right-wing BS.

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So you are judging him from previous posts and not merely the content of hat one post? Very well then.

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Hamster Buddha said:

So you are judging him from previous posts and not merely the content of hat one post? Very well then.

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You can characterize it anyway you like; I don't really give a damn!

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

instagramsci said:

There can't be a "good dialogue" to come out of Ferguson

Radicals see the police as enforcers of capitalism and they aren't exactly wrong seeing as law enforcement has a history of actively suppressing labor movements

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That is a half truth at best. Well except the part about the radicals seeing the police as enforcers of capitalism.

BTW those "enforcers of capitalism" did a piss poor job of protecting capitalism in Ferguson. But why shouldnt the police try to stop rioters from burning stores? If the police in their riot regalia didnt show up I doubt much of Ferguson would be standing right now. And without those cops running around there would have been a lot of dead people.

The tactic called 'Black Bloc' isnt really a separate group of people it is merely a tactic. These people are anonymous so that their political groups are not to blame for the violence. Those same groups will on purpose denounce the black blocs actions. They will claim though that 'we would not be having this conversation if it werent for the black bloc'. If pressed the black bloc 'are not us' as if we are all stupid enough to not know these things. FFS its all done on the internet we can just go read this **** ourselves.

"Is the black bloc an organization?

The black bloc is a TACTIC, not a group or organization. Just like there cannot by the "Civil Disobedience Group," neither can the black bloc be an organization. Some people are under the mistaken impression that one can join the "black bloc organization." There is no standing black bloc organization between protests. There is the anarchist movement which always exists (and has been around for over a century). You can think of the black bloc as just a temporary collection of anarchists that represent a contingent in a protest march. The black bloc is a tactic, similar to civil disobedience." Blackbloc Faq | Infoshop.org

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

ReverendHellh0und said:

Mike brown case was clear cut, he robbed a store and charged a cop and got killed for his aggressive criminal thug ways.


Eric Garner got killed over loosies.

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I have to disagree. He didn't get killed over "loosies", he died because of his own actions, how he dealt with the police when confronted for selling "loosies". Brown was shot while attacking an officer. Garner was placed into a submission hold so that the cops wouldn't have to fight and possibly shoot him.

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

Texmex said:

Only a right-wing nut job would see it your way, I'm not surprised. Garner was killed by this policemen, and they should be held accountable.

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Only a right-wing nut job would take into consideration the conditions and circumstances? Only a right-wing nut job would seek the greatest understanding possible before forming an opinion?

Only a right-wing nut job would suggest that people who are dissatisfied with system actually work in that system to improve it?

People are a nut job for considering as many factors and making a logical deduction about it?

Wow, and people wonder why I want no compromise with and distrust the left completely. You're about as accurate as the person that called me a Liberal nut job over one of my posts. If this is an example of how accurate you are, please do us all a favor and don't handle guns.

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

instagramsci said:

Good joke

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About as good a joke as the Soviet Union, North Korea, Cuba, Red China, Vietnam and many, many others where the pursuit of Communism/Socialism led to abject poverty and the death of millions? 200+ years of absolute failure makes the leftist philosophy a joke.

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

DVSentinel said:

About as good a joke as the Soviet Union, North Korea, Cuba, Red China, Vietnam and many, many others where the pursuit of Communism/Socialism led to abject poverty and the death of millions? 200+ years of absolute failure makes the leftist philosophy a joke.

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Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

DVSentinel said:

Only a right-wing nut job would take into consideration the conditions and circumstances? Only a right-wing nut job would seek the greatest understanding possible before forming an opinion?

Only a right-wing nut job would suggest that people who are dissatisfied with system actually work in that system to improve it?

People are a nut job for considering as many factors and making a logical deduction about it?

Wow, and people wonder why I want no compromise with and distrust the left completely. You're about as accurate as the person that called me a Liberal nut job over one of my posts. If this is an example of how accurate you are, please do us all a favor and don't handle guns.

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Nice rant. You never know when some crazy right-wing nut might attack. I have a CHL, how about you?

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

I can see Pravda right now ...
"Anarchist drug users whom anyone can tell is a drug legalization proponent except themselves form massive riots over a criminal who's health was so poor he died upon refusing arrest."

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

instagramsci said:

The point of their radicalism is to end the plight of people of color. Like that is at least in part their motivation behind being a radical be it a socialist, communist, etc

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Actually, the dictatorship of the proles requires plenty of useful idiots. Blacks and liberals in general provide a decent sized pool. Some people really, really enjoy being exploited. And they like the new TVs and other loot.

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

Texmex said:

We can't all be pure and noble like you. :roll:

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This is certainly true.

I prefer for the police department not attack citizens for minor **** like selling cigarettes

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Liberals should stop taxing things and then making it a felony to sell the things that are so highly taxed in a way that avoids paying the taxes.

Can we agree that the root cause of Garner's death was liberalism and decades of overeating/overdrinking?

or not walking on the sidewalk. It's evident you prefer a police state where you suck up to the police regardless of what happened.

What so many refuse to see is that any good police officers are tainted by these wild west cops who are on a power trip.

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I see it differently. Our politicians abuse the citizenry every day with new laws, new rules, new regulations, that take our wealth, take our time and take our patience. Politicians require someone to enforce the tens of thousands of laws they create, criminalizing everything. The police are merely the agents of the politicians. If you want to do some good go find some liberal politicians and have your moment of justice.

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

Texmex said:

Nice rant. You never know when some crazy right-wing nut might attack. I have a CHL, how about you?

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A customized AR-15 optimized for long distance shooting. I'll probably get a license for a suppressor before I get a CHL. I only have a .44 Desert Eagle and a 1911-22 as hand guns. One not very concealable and the other not very useful until I get better control.

Wow, really, a lefty with a CHL. You know they might kick you out of the club if they read that. Then what are you going to do.

Not much of a rant, and I notice you make no attempt to actually answer any of the questions.

Donald Polish said:

Protests in support of Eric Garner erupt in New York and elsewhere - The Washington Post
It seems that black protests are covering the whole country. We see how every negative gesture towards the minority of color will exacerbate this conflict. While plans of our administration are not clear protesters are flooding the streets of the largest city in the country. Will Obama send his militarized police forces with newly bought body-cameras to the "Big Apple". It is worth to shoot a new blockbuster.

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I hope he does and I hope they riot and kill them. I would be right their with them with a rock if they did. The pigs need to be brought to justice!

That cartoon is horribly inaccurate and kinda racist...

Donald Polish said:

Protests in support of Eric Garner erupt in New York and elsewhere - The Washington Post
It seems that black protests are covering the whole country. We see how every negative gesture towards the minority of color will exacerbate this conflict. While plans of our administration are not clear protesters are flooding the streets of the largest city in the country. Will Obama send his militarized police forces with newly bought body-cameras to the "Big Apple". It is worth to shoot a new blockbuster.

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That political cartoon is racist. Shame on you for posting it without giving it the scorn that it deserves.

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

Misterveritis said:

This is certainly true.


Liberals should stop taxing things and then making it a felony to sell the things that are so highly taxed in a way that avoids paying the taxes.

Can we agree that the root cause of Garner's death was liberalism and decades of overeating/overdrinking?


I see it differently. Our politicians abuse the citizenry every day with new laws, new rules, new regulations, that take our wealth, take our time and take our patience. Politicians require someone to enforce the tens of thousands of laws they create, criminalizing everything. The police are merely the agents of the politicians. If you want to do some good go find some liberal politicians and have your moment of justice.

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The root cause of garners death was corrupt, racist pigs. And politics like neocons and democratic centrists that allows such things to flourish. Honestly I don't think you understand what the word liberal means...

Yes because conservative prolitcians have never pushed racist policy's that support the police... Oh wait their the main purveyors of such policy's that's right!

Furthermore the whole "taking your wealth" thing. Most wealth in america is Ill gotten and at the expense of others. The government needs to take some on order to support things like schools and the impoverished. Things that benefit everybody. Frankly they don't take enough and they misuse large portions of what they do.

The pigs are agents of themselves. They lobby (very successfully) for laws that benefit them, and do as the please. They have no one to answer to except the fop, which almost always pardons them and has the "right" to step in on legal proceedings and do as it pleases, blocking prosecution of pigs that should be in jail.

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FreedomFromAll said:

These protests/riots will go nowhere good for one reason: exploitation. Leftist groups (anarchists, communists, socialists, anti-capitalists, progressives) are exploiting the race card in order to bring about their type of change or revolution. The actual plight of Americans of color has no real meaning to them, it is just a tool and nothing more to reach a ends. The less radicals involved will deny that the radicals exists or at least try to convince us that those black blocs are just agitators ignore them. They'll go on and on about race inequalities and how awful America is for it. They are a bunch of haters themselves, they hate Americans and they hate capitalism above anything else. And this is just a opportunity (for leftists) to push blame on capitalism.

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The blame should be on capitalism. That's why so many black groups are socialist, because socialism offers answers to their problems, where capitalism offers the middle finger...

Capitalism is the biggest problem with america hands down. Whoever said "let us be" (lazze fair) should have been shot on the spot...

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

DVSentinel said:

A customized AR-15 optimized for long distance shooting. I'll probably get a license for a suppressor before I get a CHL. I only have a .44 Desert Eagle and a 1911-22 as hand guns. One not very concealable and the other not very useful until I get better control.

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A Ruger LCP fits nicely in the pocket.

Wow, really, a lefty with a CHL. You know they might kick you out of the club if they read that. Then what are you going to do.

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How are they going to kick me out, I'm the one with the gun. :lamo

Re: "Michael Brown's virus" has already infected the NY city.

b_dubz said:

The blame should be on capitalism. That's why so many black groups are socialist, because socialism offers answers to their problems, where capitalism offers the middle finger...

Capitalism is the biggest problem with america hands down. Whoever said "let us be" (lazze fair) should have been shot on the spot...

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We never have had Laissez-faire in the US government. We have had plenty of supporters of Laissez-faire, but our track record speaks quite the opposite. Hell even the US Constitution gives power to the federal government to interfere in the markets. So thanx for the propaganda but it didnt work. Oh and racism is racism which has zero to do with capitalism.

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DVSentinel said:

Nor from what I've seen, on COPS anyway, do they always do so until they have control of an agitated, hostile and aggressive suspect. Further, you nor I, know what was actually said before the video begins. It is very clear however that he is already arguing with the officers about the nature of the offense for which they were either arresting him or questioning him (we don't know which, since the person shooting the video didn't catch that part or it wasn't made public).

Have you thought about the situation from the point of view of the cops involved, taking into account what they would know at the time? If so many are upset at what the police do, how many of them attempt to join the police? How many of them are willing or able to do what cops do everyday? Is it possible that some people are expecting superhuman perfection from humans doing a tough and dangerous job?

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The officer who put the chockhold on him later said they were going to detain him for questioning because they had a report from a shop owner that he was selling cigarettes. However, he did not say they had told Garner he was being detained. Early news reports stated the police had told Mr. Garner he couldn't stand on the public sidewalk where he was due to the shop owner there said he was hurting his business by selling cigarettes (as a 3rd hand report) - telling Garner he had to move on.

Garner argue back that he wasn't doing anything illegal, that he believed the police were harassing him every time they saw him, and that he has a right to be there as anyone else. That is - again according to early news coverage - when the video picks up.

The police nor DA have ever issued any statement contradicting any of that.

This instance was nothing like Ferguson. Garner was threatening no one. It was police who initiated violence. Not only was this about a possible misdemeanor, the police there had not seen him commit any offense. Nor was Garner under arrest or told he was under arrest.

His "crime" was a police officer told him that he couldn't stand where he was on the sidewalk and he responded for them to stop harassing him every time they see him. In a sense, his crime at that moment was existing in public and claiming he had a right to - after a police officer told him that he didn't telling him to leave the area. Garner had the strange view that he had to be caught doing something illegal before ordered off the sidewalk or arrested.

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b_dubz said:

The root cause of garners death was corrupt, racist pigs. And politics like neocons and democratic centrists that allows such things to flourish. Honestly I don't think you understand what the word liberal means...

Yes because conservative prolitcians have never pushed racist policy's that support the police... Oh wait their the main purveyors of such policy's that's right!

Furthermore the whole "taking your wealth" thing. Most wealth in america is Ill gotten and at the expense of others. The government needs to take some on order to support things like schools and the impoverished. Things that benefit everybody. Frankly they don't take enough and they misuse large portions of what they do.

The pigs are agents of themselves. They lobby (very successfully) for laws that benefit them, and do as the please. They have no one to answer to except the fop, which almost always pardons them and has the "right" to step in on legal proceedings and do as it pleases, blocking prosecution of pigs that should be in jail.

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I do not see that as a credible message and it reads like rank baiting with an extreme view seeking a reaction for attention.