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No Indictment in Chokehold Death [W:1903,2680]

Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

CRUE CAB said:
Cop made my sister in walk home. Wouldnt let her back into the car to get her phone. All because her DL was suspended because the insurance company didnt get notified of the change in auto pay from the new credit card.
Four miles in the worst part of town, would even give her a ride to a well lit place.
I cant wait to find that MFer.
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Why, what would you do if you found that "MFer"?
 
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Juanita said:
That is not resisting. If it is, then "any" action or words by "anyone" confronted by the cops can be construed by the police as resisting arrest and could be killed.
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As soon as he pulled away, he was resisting.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Going from one side of town from work to home. And her licence was suspended because her debit card was hacked and replaced. Her insurance was paid automatically off the old card.
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It must have been that way for months, it takes at least 3 billing cycles for your insurance to be cancelled. Furthermore, they would notifier her by mail of pending suspension. furthermore, after 3 months, it would take the DMV at least a 2 months to suspend her license as they first send a letter to the driver that they have a notice of no inurance and they give her an opportunity to prove otherwise.


so she had up to 6 months to figure this out, and she was indeed notified by more than one entity.

In fact the bank also tells you that all your autopay would have to be re-done. so that's 3 entities.


Guess she should be made to walk home because of that and take a chance of rape or worse for that crime against humanity.
That is the type of cop that needs to be dealt with in the harshest terms. You dont put people in harms way in the middle of the night.
No reason to not let her get her phone. No reason to not make a call for her. Just a badge happy prick.
Oh, and seeing as we live here I can attest there are not pay phones on that section of US1 in Melbourne.
My guess also is that she was not impressed with his shiny badge and gun.
You can also bet that that POS would be sued had anything happen to her.
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So because the cop wouldn't give your irresponsible sister a ride home for poor decisions SHE made he needs to be dealt with in the harshest way....

but the cop that choked garner was a-ok in your book?

Maybe he should have choked her out instead.

Jus sayin.
 
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joko104 said:
Amazing level of hypocrisy since you brought your family into this.
SHE WAS BREAKING THE LAW. It was HER job to insure her insurance was current. IN FACT, the insurance WOULD have sent her notice of her insurance lapsing and there is a grace period - UNLESS she also BROKE THE LAW and did not advise of her new address.
Now we're reading of your apparent insistence that she allow her to CONTINUE TO BREAK THE LAW... and to the possible harm of others - and your implying you want to find the police officer who ENFORCED THE LAW to retaliate.

So the officer didn't believe her pansy ass lying made up story of "I didn't know my license was suspended."

It doesn't even work that way. Insurance companies don't advise the license office if insurance runs out UNLESS THE PERSON HAS TO BE FILING AN SR-22 - meaning she was previously breaking the law. What was it? No insurance for some pansy ass excuse that time too? DUI? Even then, she would have been sent a notice from the state - UNLESS SHE ALSO BROKE THE LAW NOT KEEPING HER ACCURATE ADDRESSS ON RECORD. The state doesn't SECRETLY suspend people's driver's license and you know it.

YET, you cheer the violent chocking and crushing death of Mr. Garner for what? There is no indication that police even saw him breaking any laws. But she was.

You expect her to be rewarded with a free taxi ride in a police car as a reward for driving on a suspended license and with no insurance?

I don' believe he wouldn't let her have phone either.
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Believe what you want. And yes the state suspends you license in Florida with little to no notification.
I also don't "cheer" Garners death, yet I don't let my heart bleed for him either.
Did she break the law? Where did I say she didn't, but a ticket would suffice. Calling a next of kin to come get her is only civil. Or allowing her to call.
We have plenty of local family in LE in the area, he will get his. He will need someone one day and no one will be around. That is how it works when you screw with people for no reason.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
It must have been that way for months, it takes at least 3 billing cycles for your insurance to be cancelled. Furthermore, they would notifier her by mail of pending suspension. furthermore, after 3 months, it would take the DMV at least a 2 months to suspend her license as they first send a letter to the driver that they have a notice of no inurance and they give her an opportunity to prove otherwise.


so she had up to 6 months to figure this out, and she was indeed notified by more than one entity.

In fact the bank also tells you that all your autopay would have to be re-done. so that's 3 entities.






So because the cop wouldn't give your irresponsible sister a ride home for poor decisions SHE made he needs to be dealt with in the harshest way....

but the cop that choked garner was a-ok in your book?

Maybe he should have choked her out instead.

Jus sayin.
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Nope, State Farm suspends your insurance as soon as you are late and informs the state with in 72 hours.
Irresponsible? Yea right. I can bet she makes more than you as a aero space tech.
Any way, I know you love to jump on anyone that relays a personal experience. Due to the fact you never leave your mothers basement. But I relayed that to show that I don't always every time condone police behaviors.
Thanks for playing.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Nope, State Farm suspends your insurance as soon as you are late and informs the state with in 72 hours.
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Billing cycle is 30 days. and no, they don't cancel if they don't have a check by day 31.


What is My Grace Period, and How do I Find Out What the Fee Will be if My Payment is Late?
The grace period on auto loans is 10 days. A late fee will be assessed if the payment is not received by the 10th day of the grace period.


So after the 30 day billing cycle, they give you a 10 day grace period. after that, a late fee will be assessed. (meaning you won't be cancelled immedietly).


Furthermore, lets pretend you are 100% correct. after 72hrs, the state would then take up to 10 days to process this, then they send her a notification to prove she has insurance. she recieved this.


Irresponsible? Yea right. I can bet she makes more than you as a aero space tech.
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Damn, girl cant even navigate auto insurance, your claiming she's a rocket scientist?


As far as if she makes more than me or not, it's irrelevant, but I doubt it based on the job title.


Any way, I know you love to jump on anyone that relays a personal experience. Due to the fact you never leave your mothers basement. But I relayed that to show that I don't always every time condone police behaviors.
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Nope, today I am posting from my home office, spinning vinyl on my rega rp8, arcam amp, and monitor audio's.... love the sound my friend.


As far as jumping on personal experience, all it does is show your hypocrisy.


The only time it seems you don't condone police behavior is if you are the one doing it, or they apply the law to your family. other than that it's tread ware and choke hold for everyone! lol.





Thanks for playing.
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Your welcome.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
Billing cycle is 30 days. and no, they don't cancel if they don't have a check by day 31.


What is My Grace Period, and How do I Find Out What the Fee Will be if My Payment is Late?
The grace period on auto loans is 10 days. A late fee will be assessed if the payment is not received by the 10th day of the grace period.


So after the 30 day billing cycle, they give you a 10 day grace period. after that, a late fee will be assessed. (meaning you won't be cancelled immedietly).


Furthermore, lets pretend you are 100% correct. after 72hrs, the state would then take up to 10 days to process this, then they send her a notification to prove she has insurance. she recieved this.





Damn, girl cant even navigate auto insurance, your claiming she's a rocket scientist?


As far as if she makes more than me or not, it's irrelevant, but I doubt it based on the job title.





Nope, today I am posting from my home office, spinning vinyl on my rega rp8, arcam amp, and monitor audio's.... love the sound my friend.


As far as jumping on personal experience, all it does is show your hypocrisy.


The only time it seems you don't condone police behavior is if you are the one doing it, or they apply the law to your family. other than that it's tread ware and choke hold for everyone! lol.








Your welcome.
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Yea, I have been with State Farm for 31 years. Gotten plenty of notices of cancellation. Day late, they send them out. Very short grace period.
Oh, and how dare she let her debit card get hacked. I know right, nail her to the wall for that. Happened to me too, must me a real scofflaw I am. I tell yea. Us out laws running the streets are a real threat to national security.
 
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Henrin said:
Can you point to the law that says I have a right to not have competition from ice cream trucks parked on the side of the road?
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in your community? no

in mine...there are laws on the books

where trucks can park, where they cant......

This week marked the launch of new rules in Washington, DC that are intended to put an end to years of rancor between the District’s food trucks and their supporters on the one hand and regulators and the restaurant lobby in the District on the other.

If the first week under the new regulations is a harbinger of the long-term impact of the rules, then I’m cautiously optimistic.

As the Washington Post’s Tim Carman reported this week, formerly arcane rules meant that food trucks in the District were constantly under fire, forced to find haphazard parking solutions when they’d rather have been serving customers.

“In the past at places such as Farragut Square, passenger cars (sometimes even cabbies who might charge $25 for a prime spot) would hold spaces until food trucks arrived,” writes Carman. “Parking enforcement officers would ticket trucks less than a minute after the meters expired. And the truck operators would conduct private deals to switch parking spots and extend their vending time beyond the two hours allowed on the meters.”

New Washington, DC, Food Truck Rules Are (Mostly) Good (So Far) - Reason.com

most communities have laws on the books like this

it is extremely unfair to existing businesses to allow street vendors to setup shop on the sidewalk or street in front of them

you might want to check your local laws to see what is applicable there

here...the ice cream truck vendor would be moved.....if he even setup shop there in the first place
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Yea, I have been with State Farm for 31 years. Gotten plenty of notices of cancellation. Day late, they send them out. Very short grace period.
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10 days, not a day.

and it's a notice, where if you pay, there is no lapse in coverage.


If there is, then the state follows up with a request to prove you have insurance, this process takes at minimum 40 days.


so for 40 days, she could have figured out that she hadn't paid her insurance.

Especially since being "hacked" and getting a new card, I am sure she was hypervigilant about all moneys coming and going in that account at the time.


Oh, and how dare she let her debit card get hacked. I know right, nail her to the wall for that. Happened to me too, must me a real scofflaw I am. I tell yea. Us out laws running the streets are a real threat to national security.
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No one faults her or you for having your cards compromised, **** happens. but failing to pay and maintain insurance is against the law, and who is responsible for making sure they are an insured driver?

Not quite as bad as selling .50 loosies on a street corner, but it's still the law.


And again, what would you do if you found that cop?


Did you check to see if it was against department regulation to give someone not being arrested or detained a "lift"?

Did you check to see if it was against department regulations to let her use thier personal phones?

Did you consider he could have impounded her car?

Did you or she file a complaint against the officer?



I've never had a problem figuring out paying my bills, so I can't relate, but I do know my insurance agent would call me if there was an issue.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
10 days, not a day.

and it's a notice, where if you pay, there is no lapse in coverage.


If there is, then the state follows up with a request to prove you have insurance, this process takes at minimum 40 days.


so for 40 days, she could have figured out that she hadn't paid her insurance.

Especially since being "hacked" and getting a new card, I am sure she was hypervigilant about all moneys coming and going in that account at the time.





No one faults her or you for having your cards compromised, **** happens. but failing to pay and maintain insurance is against the law, and who is responsible for making sure they are an insured driver?

Not quite as bad as selling .50 loosies on a street corner, but it's still the law.


And again, what would you do if you found that cop?


Did you check to see if it was against department regulation to give someone not being arrested or detained a "lift"?

Did you check to see if it was against department regulations to let her use thier personal phones?

Did you consider he could have impounded her car?

Did you or she file a complaint against the officer?



I've never had a problem figuring out paying my bills, so I can't relate, but I do know my insurance agent would call me if there was an issue.
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Oh, so many stupid questions. Where to begin. Glad you walk on water as well.
So, you have NEVER missed a bill. Either you have none, or are so young its never happened. Other wise you are full of it.
But hey, good job making this about me. I should have known the shallow thinkers here would do just that.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Oh, so many stupid questions. Where to begin. Glad you walk on water as well.
So, you have NEVER missed a bill. Either you have none, or are so young its never happened. Other wise you are full of it.
But hey, good job making this about me. I should have known the shallow thinkers here would do just that.
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You made it about you.


Missed a bill? sure. had insurance lapse because of it, nope.

And no I haven't missed a bill in years. Could be because I have an accountant for all that, who knows. *shrug*




My point has and always has been that garner was attacked, needlessly over a loosie, a "Crime" no worse than not paying your auto insurance/driving on a suspended license. yet one had to walk home, the other got choked, and died.


Life ain't fair I guess. ;)
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
You made it about you.


Missed a bill? sure. had insurance lapse because of it, nope.

And no I haven't missed a bill in years. Could be because I have an accountant for all that, who knows. *shrug*




My point has and always has been that garner was attacked, needlessly over a loosie, a "Crime" no worse than not paying your auto insurance/driving on a suspended license. yet one had to walk home, the other got choked, and died.


Life ain't fair I guess. ;)
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Related a personal story to show that I don't always condone police behavior. That does not make it "about me". Try again.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Related a personal story to show that I don't always condone police behavior. That does not make it "about me". Try again.
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CLUE: Stop talking about you and yours and no one else will.


You can't bring something up then complain when people talk about it. You are ignoring my on topic posts. I would think you would have preferred to steer the conversation away from your personal drama here.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Nope, State Farm suspends your insurance as soon as you are late and informs the state with in 72 hours.
Irresponsible? Yea right. I can bet she makes more than you as a aero space tech.
Any way, I know you love to jump on anyone that relays a personal experience. Due to the fact you never leave your mothers basement. But I relayed that to show that I don't always every time condone police behaviors.
Thanks for playing.
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Upon the lapse of your Florida auto policy, your insurance carrier is required by law to immediately notify the state. The Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles will in turn notify you to provide proof of new coverage. If you fail to provide this new proof, your license, plates and registration will be suspended for up to three years. Once this suspension is in place, you will have to provide the state with proof of a new policy and pay a fee of $150 to have your license, plates and registration reinstated.

Obviously your sister isn't all the high income if she's paying her insurance on a monthly basis. Insurance is significantly lower if paid annually.

PLUS it meant her proof of insurance card was outdated - and she would have known she hadn't gotten a new one. Officers don't phone in to see if the card is good or not, so once again she knew or decided the law does matter to her.

Not even counting she was driving without insurance, she could have been arrested on the spot, up to 60 days in jail for driving on a suspended license. Plus driving without insurance. Plus what she was pulled over for.

So the officer gave her a break. A BIG break.

There is a possibility, of course, she started acting like you. Telling the officer how important she is, how she makes more money than he does, and how she knows a lot of cops and he'll get his if he doesn't just let her off the hook and let her keep driving with no insurance on a suspended license. After listening to her crap he still didn't arrest her. But to her (and your) demand that he just agree she's above the law and can keep driving on a suspended license with no insurance he said no. He got sick of hearing her crap, but still gave her a break not arresting her.

She overrated her self importance over everyone else and over the officer, which is what your messages reflect about yourself. In short, she was entirely at fault and probably acted like you do in your messages - tantrums and declarations of superiority deserving special treatment - when pulled over.

Oh, and then there is that she was pulled over too. What illegal activity was she involved in that caused that to happen in the first place?
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
CLUE: Stop talking about you and yours and no one else will.


You can't bring something up then complain when people talk about it. You are ignoring my on topic posts. I would think you would have preferred to steer the conversation away from your personal drama here.
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No drama. And yes, I am ignoring you.
 
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joko104 said:
Upon the lapse of your Florida auto policy, your insurance carrier is required by law to immediately notify the state. The Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles will in turn notify you to provide proof of new coverage. If you fail to provide this new proof, your license, plates and registration will be suspended for up to three years. Once this suspension is in place, you will have to provide the state with proof of a new policy and pay a fee of $150 to have your license, plates and registration reinstated.

Obviously your sister isn't all the high income if she's paying her insurance on a monthly basis. Insurance is significantly lower if paid annually.

PLUS it meant her proof of insurance card was outdated - and she would have known she hadn't gotten a new one. Officers don't phone in to see if the card is good or not, so once again she knew or decided the law does matter to her.

Not even counting she was driving without insurance, she could have been arrested on the spot, up to 60 days in jail for driving on a suspended license. Plus driving without insurance. Plus what she was pulled over for.

So the officer gave her a break. A BIG break.

There is a possibility, of course, she started acting like you. Telling the officer how important she is, how she makes more money than he does, and how she knows a lot of cops and he'll get his if he doesn't just let her off the hook and let her keep driving with no insurance on a suspended license. After listening to her crap he still didn't arrest her. But to her (and your) demand that he just agree she's above the law and can keep driving on a suspended license with no insurance he said no. He got sick of hearing her crap, but still gave her a break not arresting her.

She overrated her self importance over everyone else and over the officer, which is what your messages reflect about yourself. In short, she was entirely at fault and probably acted like you do in your messages - tantrums and declarations of superiority deserving special treatment - when pulled over.

Oh, and then there is that she was pulled over too. What illegal activity was she involved in that caused that to happen in the first place?
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Just to answer the last question. Because all you other statement is BS.
He pulled her because the plates were also suspended. Because of the insurance. He just ran her plates as he was driving down the road. Bright yellow Mustangs with blonds will get the attention of cops every time.
You will also notice I have not defended or made excuses for her lapse. Only that the cop left her in a bad place on the side of the road with no communication and seemed to really not give a crap what may or could happen to her.
Only that he got a chance to screw with someone and write a ticket.
Enjoy walking on water.
Personally I would have waited till he was out of sight and jumped in and hauled ass home. But she wanted to "abide" by his commands.
Being a law abiding citizen is not boiler plate against some cop being a prick.
And I pay my insurance monthly as well. I guess you think that means something. Well it don't. I have paid it quarterly at times, monthly, yearly. Means nothing.
Your BS has failed and your insults are the result of you being a weak minded weak kneed individual.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
No drama. And yes, I am ignoring you.
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I can tell. Thank you for the concession.


officer's overenforced the law and the chokehold was out of line with the crime that he was allegedly committing.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
I can tell. Thank you for the concession.


officer's overenforced the law and the chokehold was out of line with the crime that he was allegedly committing.
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Grand jury says different.
Oh, and ignoring your BS is not conceding anything. Its called ignoring your BS.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Grand jury says different.
Oh, and ignoring your BS is not conceding anything. Its called ignoring your BS.
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If you call this "ignoring" I'd hate to see what "paying attention" is.



Grand jury got it wrong this time, as I 've shown in this thread.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Just to answer the last question. Because all you other statement is BS.
He pulled her because the plates were also suspended. Because of the insurance. He just ran her plates as he was driving down the road. Bright yellow Mustangs with blonds will get the attention of cops every time.
You will also notice I have not defended or made excuses for her lapse. Only that the cop left her in a bad place on the side of the road with no communication and seemed to really not give a crap what may or could happen to her.
Only that he got a chance to screw with someone and write a ticket.
Enjoy walking on water.
Personally I would have waited till he was out of sight and jumped in and hauled ass home. But she wanted to "abide" by his commands.
Being a law abiding citizen is not boiler plate against some cop being a prick.
And I pay my insurance monthly as well. I guess you think that means something. Well it don't. I have paid it quarterly at times, monthly, yearly. Means nothing.
Your BS has failed and your insults are the result of you being a weak minded weak kneed individual.
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The excuses make no sense, they don't add up.

The claim her ATM card was hacked and she didn't know it - for week after week after week? Nope. Account was overdrawn.

That she make piles of money? Nope. A person who has piles of money doesn't pay insurance monthly as the rate is substantially higher.

That there was no way to know her insurance had lapsed? Nope. 1.) the proof of insurance card would have expired. 2.) the insurance company would have sent her a letter, 3.) State Farm would have sent her an email and 4.) The State of Florida mailed her a notice - all that she ignored.

That the officer wouldn't let her have her cell phone. Don't believe it. Since her bank account was overdrawn likely her pay-as-you-go phone was out of minutes.

That she had to walk 4 miles? If she walked either she wanted to or everyone who knows her - including you - were too busy to go pick her up - as she could have asked any business or stopped at any house asking them to make an emergency call for her.

Now you rant that because you are SPECIAL people because you know police and therefore should not only be totally exempt from law, but that all police officers should be your servants and delivery boys - threatening retaliation against the officer for not violating policy given personal rides while on duty in their cruiser to friends of the police (as you claim anyway). That went nowhere, didn't it?

Your threat of retaliation against the officer is criminal by the way, even if not a threat of violence. You should be arrested and jailed for the threat.

Based upon your messages of your personal views and your personal family that YOU injected into this, never, ever, pretend you are pro law enforcement on principle.

If you don't want a topic to be personal, don't make it personal.
 
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Paying insurance monthly means the person actually is taking out a very high interest loan against the insurance premium. People with money don't take out high interest loans nor run big credit card debts - they just pay in full. Annual insurance premiums are so low no one with money finances it monthly (unless she is a DUI with lots of tickets and has to have ongoing proof of insurance to the state - which obviously is the case of the State of Florida wouldn't know her insurance had lapsed).

You left out the part about her as to why the insurance company reported her insurance lapsing to the State, didn't you? Either she had been caught driving without insurance before or has a DUI conviction. Which is it?
 
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