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No Indictment in Chokehold Death [W:1903,2680]

Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

So, I'll take this to mean you have no problem with kids being arrested for selling lemonade without a proper license? Right? After all, they are breaking the law.

Take those kids down, put them in a choke hold, haul them to the station for interrogation.
 
Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

So is window tint in NJ, yet, many cops have thier personal vehicles tinted.

In Melbourne, our chief gave each officer a razor blade and told them don't come back to work with tinting still on your car.
 
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Take those kids down, put them in a choke hold, haul them to the station for interrogation.

And don't forget to hit their head against the sidewalk and make extra sure to hold their face into the ground with both arms. You have to do this **** properly!
 
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In Melbourne, our chief gave each officer a razor blade and told them don't come back to work with tinting still on your car.

Ahh, holding up law enforcement standards preventing us from the rampant window tinting epidemic!

Window tint is legal in FL
http://alwayscooltint.com/floridas-window-tint-laws/


Do you know, I have a stack of "PBA" cards? If I get pulled over for speeding or window tint, I hand one to the officer, and drive away without a ticket?
 
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Ahh, holding up law enforcement standards preventing us from the rampant window tinting epidemic!

Do you know, I have a stack of "PBA" cards? If I get pulled over for speeding or window tint, I hand one to the officer, and drive away without a ticket?
I would write the full ticket for people playing that game. Then get them out of the car for a full vehicle inspection. Tire tread depth, muffler, tint, safety equipment, tag lights, head lights. Even in the day time.
 
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I would write the full ticket for people playing that game. Then get them out of the car for a full vehicle inspection. Tire tread depth, muffler, tint, safety equipment, tag lights, head lights. Even in the day time.


No you wouldn't, because you like every other officer want to progress, and the one I have signed by your chief, probably wouldn't go over very well.

It's the officers that give them out to thier friends and family. Are you telling me you would harrass a cops wife like this if she did that?

No, you wouldn't.
 
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Take those kids down, put them in a choke hold, haul them to the station for interrogation.

WHERE did you get your LEMONS FROM!?!
 
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No you wouldn't, because you like every other officer want to progress, and the one I have signed by your chief, probably wouldn't go over very well.

It's the officers that give them out to thier friends and family. Are you telling me you would harrass a cops wife like this if she did that?

No, you wouldn't.
Name dropping the chief meant nothing to me. Never heard a peep about it either. Oh, and if you had one of those stickers on your plate or window? You got a ticket for that too.
Then when you want to call the station to talk to the chief from the stop, I would take the phone. All in the name of officer safety. Don't want you calling your homies to come bully you out of the situation.
Oh, and there is no such thing as a signed "get out of jail/ticket" PBA card.
 
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Name dropping the chief meant nothing to me. Never heard a peep about it either. Oh, and if you had one of those stickers on your plate or window? You got a ticket for that too.
Then when you want to call the station to talk to the chief from the stop, I would take the phone. All in the name of officer safety. Don't want you calling your homies to come bully you out of the situation.


Note how you ignored the officer wife question. one law for them, eh flat foot?

You wouldn't last long in NY/NJ/CT as a cop. It's the culture here. And the point is not to open up how much of a badass cop you used to be, because we all know it's true, but to point out, "officer discretion" is one of the cops most useful tools that is being eroded away from jock cops with hard ons to write up, arrest, assault citizens for even the most minor of things.
 
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You wouldn't last long in NY/NJ/CT as a cop. It's the culture here. And the point is not to open up how much of a badass cop you used to be, because we all know it's true, but to point out, "officer discretion" is one of the cops most useful tools that is being eroded away from jock cops with hard ons to write up, arrest, assault citizens for even the most minor of things.
Bad ass? Doing a job is not being a bad ass. Its what I was paid to do.
Officer discretion? Sure. If you acted your age and not try to beg your way out by name dropping.
And I don't care how its done "up north". Heard that plenty too. "well back home" or "back in loserville". I didn't care.
 
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tree in the back yard, untaxed! Illegal!

**smacks the table**

I f'n knew it. You've been funding Al-Qaeda haven't you? This is the 6th time I take you in for this. You scummy 8 year old girl you! I'll make sure you never see the light of day again.
 
Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

What was he charged with except not accepting state tyranny by allowing himself to be submissive to an officer who had NO reason to hassle him?

Do you suggest we, as citizens of the United States, to simply do as we're told whenever an officer gives us an order?

I say "yes" to your question. Your citizenship is a privilege not a God given right. A cop tells you to do something do it. A person becomes a police officer and then goes through 20-30 years of every kind of resistance and smart ass back talk, lies, beatings and murders to the simplest of issues. Every single moment of an interaction of the smallest nature could result in the citizen suddenly turning on him or her. A simple traffic stop results in the officer(s) being shot point blank every year. I am personally shocked more police officers just don't get fed up and react violently towards agitators. How many Americans have 911 in their speed dial? Dimwitted citizens demand our protectors act like perfect angels every single second while on duty. I can think of two punks who thought they could do as they please with aggravating a police officer and both are dead proving me correct. God bless our protectors.
 
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Note how you ignored the officer wife question. one law for them, eh flat foot?

You wouldn't last long in NY/NJ/CT as a cop. It's the culture here. And the point is not to open up how much of a badass cop you used to be, because we all know it's true, but to point out, "officer discretion" is one of the cops most useful tools that is being eroded away from jock cops with hard ons to write up, arrest, assault citizens for even the most minor of things.

Wife? Wrote one of them too. Kids, friends, best mans, high school buddy, moms, dads. Officer discretion went out the window with a lack of citizen discretion.
You play the name dropping game, it was over.
 
Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

The people that sit on this jury must be police officers.

If ever there was a case of manslaughter, this was it.

He resisted arrest right up until he hit the ground.

This is quite obvious if you watch the video.

The police were trying to pin his right arm behind his back to cuff him while he was on the ground. The cop let go of the choke hold and they pinned his head against the ground.

The choke hold was wrong and police standing around doing nothing while there was clearly something was very wrong
 
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My charges were by way of example to point out how a DA can easily manipulate a GJ and weren't a comment on the Garner case.

I didn't realize they'd made the Garner charges public. Honestly criminally negligent homicide seems to fit the bill. NY defines criminal negligence as



From what I've seen there seems to be ample evidence to justify that charge and bring it to trial. Maybe there's not enough for a conviction but certainly a trail seems warranted.

There was also at least one other lesser charge, reckless endangerment, that wasn't presented.

The charges have been out there, the usual "sources close to the investigation" revealed the charges. The knock is that reckless endangerment wasn't in there, and it possibly should have been. It does seem that the criminally negligent homicide could have stuck too, which has to make you wonder what the GJ saw that we didn't.
 
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If you actually READ the post that you replied to, you'd understand how the prosecutor likely controlled the procedure.

And to reiterate a key point: Normally, a grand jury proceeding takes less than a day, and the prosecutor ONLY shares enough evidence with the grand jury to secure an indictment. When the proceeding takes 9 weeks and involves 50 witnesses, something is definitely rotten in the state of New York.

:roll:
 
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Bad ass? Doing a job is not being a bad ass. Its what I was paid to do.
Officer discretion? Sure. If you acted your age and not try to beg your way out by name dropping.
And I don't care how its done "up north". Heard that plenty too. "well back home" or "back in loserville". I didn't care.



You live in melbourne, I'm In NYC.... Can you point out on google maps where this "looserville" you are talking about is?. anyway your not even a cop anymore. you simply praise statism and the police state from the sidelines. pba card is not "begging" it's the culture. and if that made you have a get all mad and harrass my tire treads with your probing, I would enjoy noting your loss of composure as you attempted to harrass a citizen.


PROFESSIONALISM! ;)
 
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Wife? Wrote one of them too. Kids, friends, best mans, high school buddy, moms, dads. Officer discretion went out the window with a lack of citizen discretion.
You play the name dropping game, it was over.



So if you found out it was an officers wife, you treated her just as you would any other citizen and start probing her tire depth?
 
Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

So, I'll take this to mean you have no problem with kids being arrested for selling lemonade without a proper license? Right? After all, they are breaking the law.

Why would I care about kids being arrested for selling lemonade?
 
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So if you found out it was an officers wife, you treated her just as you would any other citizen and start probing her tire depth?
Sure, why not? More the more people pushed back, the more I pushed forward.
The only one I wrote a ticket to. Apologized and I wrote the minimum speed for the fine. She was hauling ass. She knew it and when I ran her ID, she had lot of tickets.
 
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