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No Indictment in Chokehold Death [W:1903,2680]

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ReverendHellh0und said:
So if I go around choking fat people, it's cool cause it's thier fat that killed them? o_O
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Not the issue and yet another silly mischaracterization of what I said and what happened. Give it a rest, it's not now nor was it ever cute.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
I bet if you pulled her over 32 times, she'd start getting upset too.
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I was bigger than her. So I wouldn't care. Then I would hit her old man up at the station and pimp hand him for not keeping her in line.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
I bet if you pulled her over 32 times, she'd start getting upset too.
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yep

with most people, they learn what to do, and what not to do

Mr Garner had other ideas.....

after 31 previous citations/confrontations maybe he would have gotten the message that the city didnt want him doing this

he apparently didnt care.....

stupid? you be the judge
 
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gdgyva said:
yep

with most people, they learn what to do, and what not to do

Mr Garner had other ideas.....

after 31 previous citations/confrontations maybe he would have gotten the message that the city didnt want him doing this

he apparently didnt care.....

stupid? you be the judge
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You would think the state would have figured out how ****ed up it is to arrest people for victimless crimes after millions upon millions of arrests, but apparently they haven't figured it out yet. Stupid? You be the judge.
 
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Henrin said:
You would think the state would have figure out how ****ed up it is to arrest people for victimless crimes after millions upon millions of arrests, but apparently they haven't figured it out yet. Stupid? You be the judge.
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victimless?

lets see.....

first victim is the city that is losing tax revenue....kinda a BIG thing with todays budget issues and constraints

second victim is the shopkeeper that called in the complaint.....taking business away from HIS store, which was legal

maybe neither of those is important in your eyes......

to other people they are very important
 
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gdgyva said:
you might not be

apparently the mayor and city council were
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Busy body fascists are worried about everything. It's what they do.
 
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gdgyva said:
victimless?

lets see.....

first victim is the city that is losing tax revenue....kinda a BIG thing with todays budget issues and constraints

second victim is the shopkeeper that called in the complaint.....taking business away from HIS store, which was legal

maybe neither of those is important in your eyes......

to other people they are very important
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Not really. The man was on the sidewalk selling cigarettes that are only illegal because the state wants tax revenue. The state is pretty damn good at crying rivers. The shopkeeper doesn't even own the sidewalk, so his desire for the man to move along means nothing. Cry shopkeeper, cry.
 
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gdgyva said:
victimless?

lets see.....

first victim is the city that is losing tax revenue....kinda a BIG thing with todays budget issues and constraints

second victim is the shopkeeper that called in the complaint.....taking business away from HIS store, which was legal

maybe neither of those is important in your eyes......

to other people they are very important
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I doub't they will see a "theft" of 2 bucks, especially since jacking all the bridges and tunnels up by a dollar.


Shopkeeper, too aint missing much.


That said, garner should have gotten a fine, not kilt. based on the law as it stands.
 
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Hatuey said:
I did. I'll wait for your non sequitur:



Moving the goal posts so soon? The question wasn't about where kids were selling lemonade. The question was whether you'd support arresting kids selling lemonade. It's obvious you do. Hell, kids selling lemonade in front of their yards wouldn't have made an ounce of difference as they'd still be considered unlicensed vendors. Did you read the link "Libertarian"?
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Can you show me the child's arrest report, or something from the mainstream media, or even one of the NH media outlets, that talk about her arrest? You know, to back up your claim that children are getting arrested in NH for selling lemonade.

WMUR is our television station. We have a few papers - the Union Leader, the Keene Sentinel, etc.? Free Keene is a group of bloggers. I'll wait.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
Why would one need a "license" to operate a lemonade stand?
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Not a clue. But I remember when that incident happened, and no, she wasn't arrested, and it had to do with all of the adults there, not her. She was just there, and of course the Free Keene bloggers ran with the false story.

You can Google it. And then one of you can show me where kids are getting arrested for operating lemonade stands (which PS, you don't need a license for here in NH).
 
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Hatuey said:
She doesn't know what a Libertarian is. Don't mind her. As long as people are breaking "the law" then it doesn't matter what they get arrested for.
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Your evidence that the child got arrested is forthcoming, I'm sure.
 
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Henrin said:
Busy body fascists are worried about everything. It's what they do.
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Welcome to NYC, NOT your place. But this was Gardner's place, he knew the facts on the ground. Had been reminded of them over 30 times before.
 
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tres borrachos said:
Not a clue. But I remember when that incident happened, and no, she wasn't arrested, and it had to do with all of the adults there, not her. She was just there, and of course the Free Keene bloggers ran with the false story.

You can Google it. And then one of you can show me where kids are getting arrested for operating lemonade stands (which PS, you don't need a license for here in NH).
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Well, I don't know about the story, I do know about this one:

 
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tres borrachos said:
I can't launch videos on this computer. Is there a kid getting arrested for a lemonade stand anywhere in there?
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A kid? no, but john Stossel? I think so. It's a lame side argument. WTF does a kid need a permit for a lemonade stand for?
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
A kid? no, but john Stossel? I think so. It's a lame side argument. WTF does a kid need a permit for a lemonade stand for?
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I said before I have no idea why a kid would need a permit for that. If it's needed, it's a jurisdictional thing. Kids don't need permits in NH to operate a lemonade stand, which is why it isn't an issue. No kids get arrested in NH for operating lemonade stands.
 
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tres borrachos said:
Your evidence that the child got arrested is forthcoming, I'm sure.
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No one said a child got arrested, what was asked of you is if you'd have a problem with kids being arrested for it. You already said you wouldn't. Breaking the law remember? ;)
 
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Hatuey said:
No one said a child got arrested, what was asked of you is if you'd have a problem with kids being arrested for it. You already said you wouldn't. Breaking the law remember? ;)
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And I can't have a problem with something that doesn't exist. Just like I don't have a problem with an elephant sleeping in my bed. That isn't going to happen either.

Let me know when it happens, or when a law exists that says kids have to have licenses to operate lemonade stands.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
It does not indicate a crime was committed, necessarily.
It does indicate that someone was killed by another person.

He didn't die of donuts and cheeseburgers. He died at the hands of another person. He was killed.
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No...he wasnt 'killed'. Anymore than Elvis was killed by taking a ****. He died because he resisted arrest, was put to the ground, his body couldnt withstand the physical confrontation, and he went into cardiac arrest. He was not 'choked' to the point of blood loss. He wad not choked to the point of loss of oxygen. Try doing 10 pushups and then shout "I CANT BREATHE" 11times and see how many you can get out before you take a breath.

Dood died of a heart attack because he was a dangerous combination of fat and stupid.
 
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tres borrachos said:
And I can't have a problem with something that doesn't exist.
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Are you saying kids have never been arrested/threatened/harassed for selling lemonade? :)

Just like I don't have a problem with an elephant sleeping in my bed. That isn't going to happen either.

Let me know when it happens, or when a law exists that says kids have to have licenses to operate lemonade stands.
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The faces not shown? Guess why. :) The second video? Kids threatened with arrest if they don't shut down their lemonade stands. Please tell us all how your "Libertarian" ideas justify that.
 
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Hatuey said:
Are you saying kids have never been arrested/threatened/harassed for selling lemonade? :)





The faces not shown? Guess why. :)
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One more time. I'm saying kids aren't arrested here in NH for selling lemonade. I have kids. I live in NH. My kids won't get arrested for selling lemonade. We don't arrest kids in NH for selling lemonade. Therefore, I don't care about kids getting arrested for selling lemonade. Their parents need to move to another less nanny-state infiltrated jurisdiction if they want to have what I have here.

Understand yet?
 
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tres borrachos said:
One more time. I'm saying kids aren't arrested here in NH for selling lemonade.
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And that's entirely irrelevant. Nobody asked you about NH. What was asked was: If it happened, would you be opposed to it? That you aren't tells us everything you need to know.

I have kids. I live in NH. My kids won't get arrested for selling lemonade. We don't arrest kids in NH for selling lemonade. Therefore, I don't care about kids getting arrested for selling lemonade. Their parents need to move to another less nanny-state infiltrated jurisdiction if they want to have what I have here.

Understand yet?
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Ah okay, let's see if your kids were arrested for picking up seaweed from a beach, would you support it as they broke NH law?

TITLE XVIII
FISH AND GAME

CHAPTER 207

GENERAL PROVISIONS AS TO FISH AND GAME

Collecting Seaweed

Section 207:48

In Night. � If any person shall carry away or collect for the purpose of carrying away any seaweed or rockweed from the seashore below high-water mark, between daylight in the evening and daylight in the morning, he shall be guilty of a violation.

Source. 1973, 532:10, eff. Nov. 1, 1973.
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Hatuey said:
And that's entirely irrelevant. Nobody asked you about NH. What was asked was: If it happened, would you be opposed to it? That you aren't tells us everything you need to know.



Ah okay, let's see if your kids were arrested for picking up seaweed from a beach, would you support it as they broke NH law?
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If it happened would I oppose it? What do hypotheticals have to do with this, and the issue would be the law, not the police.

So lobby the NH house to remove the seaweed laws from the books if they bother you. Or better yet, if you come visit here, don't let your kids collect seaweed. I wouldn't want the Rye, NH cops to put your kid in our jails. They aren't that nice apparently.

What is the penalty for that law? How much time does the child have to serve?
 
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