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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    31 prior convictions for the same offense would factor into "probable cause."

    Incorrect, They would need probable cause based on the incident at hand to do a search of a vehicle or a persons, barring some exceptions to the warrant requirement.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Or possibly dead if you have heart issues.
    Many things will cause death if a person has a heart issue. A tazer. Chasing the person. Wrestling the person to the ground. Just the stress of arresting someone could do it. The list of what can cause a person to die if the person has a heart condition is nearly endless.

    The coroner did rule it was a "homicide" - which doesn't make that a fact but certainly is relevant. I haven't read the coroner's report, though. Have you? What did the coroner say caused the death?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    There is no need for a choke hold. The cop needs to be charged and the GJ should admit it to Trial.
    Did you see the size of that guy? That said, if tasers were allowed in departments nationwide I'd be all for each officer having a taser as part of their equipment and training at the academy. He'd probably still be dead.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Incorrect, They would need probable cause based on the incident at hand to do a search of a vehicle or a persons, barring some exceptions to the warrant requirement.
    If I'm not mistaken, I've read someone called in claiming he was selling cigarettes.

    And I am exactly correct. Prior convictions does "factor into probably cause." Of itself, no. But definitely a factor in the decision.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Many things will cause death if a person has a heart issue. A tazer. Chasing the person. Wrestling the person to the ground. Just the stress of arresting someone could do it. The list of what can cause a person to die if the person has a heart condition is nearly endless.

    The coroner did rule it was a "homicide" - which doesn't make that a fact but certainly is relevant. I haven't read the coroner's report, though. Have you? What did the coroner say caused the death?


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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, I've read someone called in claiming he was selling cigarettes.

    And I am exactly correct. Prior convictions does "factor into probably cause." Of itself, no. But definitely a factor in the decision.

    Death of Eric Garner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    I see he was breaking up a fight, no where does it say they found cigarettes or was selling them,
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Sounds like they did all that and he would not comply.


    Can you articulate the reasonable suspicion that the cops had that eric garner had committed a crime?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    This is ****ing unreal. It was an prohibited choke hold and the coroner called it a homicide, how does that not generate at the very least a manslaughter charge?
    Since when do we hold cops accountable for their crimes?
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Justice was served. He got what he was asking for.
    Murder apologist.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Duplicate of existing thread that beat you by about an hour.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...old-death.html

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