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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Please stop lying.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/ny...rner.html?_r=0





    Homicide doesn't mean what you think it means. Do you know what homicide means? I'll give you some tips:

    Homicide Definition - FindLaw



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    Please bring up the dictionary definition of homicide as an argument against the definitions I've plucked from Cornell's University's faculty of law.
    hom·i·cide
    ˈhäməˌsīd/Submit
    nounNORTH AMERICAN
    the deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another; murder.
    "he was charged with homicide"
    synonyms: murder, killing, slaughter, butchery, massacre; More
    the police department that deals with murders.
    noun: Homicide
    "a detective from Homicide"
    dated
    a murderer.
    https://www.google.com/#q=Homicide

    The legal distinction was immediately brought up by the police chief. The distinction needs to be made. Ruling the death a 'homicide' does not equal the cop committed a homicide.

    The video is quite clear. The 'choke' was applied for approximately 8 seconds while the individual was taken to the ground. Once he was on the ground (a place he did not need to be had he not decided he was not going to be arrested) the same officer that applied the hold to take him down released it and moved to his shoulders holding his head down. He did not die of being choked to death. The coroners report listed NUMEROUS contributing causes.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I was not aware that the penalty for "resisting arrest," which this guy barely did and no police were in danger in any way, was death.
    The penalty for speeding away resulting in a police chase is not death either, but sometimes bad things happen and that speeding away leads to your car wrapped around a light standard and you dead. Just a different kind of "resisting arrest".
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    Have you, or have you not arrested someone for not indicting themselves for something they refused to say?
    Roll up, and if all actors are in premises. The loudest and most agitated gets the most attention. You never know what that one will do. Will he bolt, take a swing, pull a weapon.
    Tell them to sit, and they don't. Sit them. Tell them to keep their hands where you can see them and they don't, they get cuffed.
    They want to clam up after we have been called. Fine, but you are not going anywhere until I find out what your part in this deal is.
    If not much. You may walk right there. Be a dick, I can be a dick too.
    Every cop in the country is like that.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Never had any of my arrests questioned.
    How many people did you kill?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If he was indeed well-known to police, then they knew he was no danger to anyone. They were elephants stomping a flea.
    More hyperbole.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    It is at this point I'd like to point out that the black cop who killed the white young man in Utah also got away without any charges.

    So before you make it a racial thing, no, it isn't.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    hom·i·cide
    ˈhäməˌsīd/Submit
    nounNORTH AMERICAN
    the deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another; murder.
    "he was charged with homicide"
    synonyms: murder, killing, slaughter, butchery, massacre; More
    the police department that deals with murders.
    noun: Homicide
    "a detective from Homicide"
    dated
    a murderer.
    https://www.google.com/#q=Homicide

    The legal distinction was immediately brought up by the police chief. The distinction needs to be made. Ruling the death a 'homicide' does not equal the cop committed a homicide.
    Lmao, as expected, you honestly brought up a dictionary definition as a counter to the legal definition. The cops committed a homicide as per the fact that the autopsy ruled it such. In other words, their actions led to his death. That you're still trying to avoid this is f'n laughable.

    The video is quite clear. The 'choke' was applied for approximately 8 seconds while the individual was taken to the ground. Once he was on the ground (a place he did not need to be had he not decided he was not going to be arrested) the same officer that applied the hold to take him down released it and moved to his shoulders holding his head down. He did not die of being choked to death. The coroners report listed NUMEROUS contributing causes.
    Do you understand what homicide means? Yes or no? I'll give you a clue. In every definition (legal or common), homicide means the actions of one person led to the death of another. That you're still trying to argue that this doesn't mean the actions of the police killed this man is just beyond all logic.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    How many people did you kill?
    None, thankfully.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    It is at this point I'd like to point out that the black cop who killed the white young man in Utah also got away without any charges.

    So before you make it a racial thing, no, it isn't.
    It is a racial thing. Many blacks want a free pass to do whatever.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    It is at this point I'd like to point out that the black cop who killed the white young man in Utah also got away without any charges.

    So before you make it a racial thing, no, it isn't.
    Utah has a young black male shortage.
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