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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You can't be "caught red-handed" resisting arrest.
    Yes you can, its a crime.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Just as an aside, I've been reading through this thread - I'm a slow reader and I like to get everyone's take - and I'm heartened by the number of people of all walks and all political ideologies who are, like myself, troubled by this event. While I don't know that the officer would have been convicted, I believe a trial on a lesser charge would have allowed the community to pass judgement more fully and would have informed the police on community standards as they relate to police enforcement.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Police were called. He was there and part of some melee or fight. Was told to stand down, turn around, and be detained until it was figured out who the bad guys were.
    He got loud and agitated. Bad idea.
    Why don't you watch the video before you spew this garbage?


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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Sure they are,

    In one you defended a man resisting lawful government action.
    In the other, you supported police harming an unarmed civilian for selling untaxed cigarettes.

    Those are two different issues in which your inconsistent positions on accountability are more than obvious.
    Who died at the Bundy Ranch?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Never had any of my arrests questioned.
    Have you, or have you not arrested someone for not indicting themselves for something they refused to say?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Just as an aside, I've been reading through this thread - I'm a slow reader and I like to get everyone's take - and I'm heartened by the number of people of all walks and all political ideologies who are, like myself, troubled by this event. While I don't know that the officer would have been convicted, I believe a trial on a lesser charge would have allowed the community to pass judgement more fully and would have informed the police on community standards as they relate to police enforcement.
    Troubles me that one there is a law against selling individual cigs. But two, he there is that law and he broke in many times.
    Dude was not a saint and was well known to the police. Never ends well for anyone.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Who died at the Bundy Ranch?
    Ah, so what you're saying is that if Eric Garner had shown the police his gun and intentions to use it if police used force, you would have supported him? Your consistent inconsistency is showing.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Yes you can, its a crime.
    No, you can't, because you can't be resisting arrest until the cops are actually ATTEMPTING TO ARREST YOU. Do you know what "caught red-handed" means?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    If a person can say "I can't breathe" that means the person is NOT being chocked. It would more likely indicate 1.) a heart problem 2.) a lung problem or 3.) being crushed.

    It would NOT indicate being chocked. If a person is chocking the person is unable to speak (obviously).
    Expelling air (i.e. speaking) is a different function to breathing in. Much easier to breathe out when your being pinned down, than it is to breathe in.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Troubles me that one there is a law against selling individual cigs. But two, he there is that law and he broke in many times.
    Dude was not a saint and was well known to the police. Never ends well for anyone.
    If he was indeed well-known to police, then they knew he was no danger to anyone. They were elephants stomping a flea.
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