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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Not how I saw it. I just saw it again. He was loud, agitated, and resisting. Sorry, that will get you hooked up every time.

    If that was "Agitated" those cops need to take up knitting, police work is not for them. Being mad at harrassment is not being "Aggressive" and his only "resisting" began when that dude put the choke in.


    It is not illegal to tell a cop to go **** himself.

    and if a cop "hooks you up" for doing so, he should lose his job.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Two different issues.
    Sure they are,

    In one you defended a man resisting lawful government action.
    In the other, you supported police harming an unarmed civilian for selling untaxed cigarettes.

    Those are two different issues in which your inconsistent positions on accountability are more than obvious.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Don't matter, he was a criminal. You look a person up in the system and all it shows is arrests. What for and when.


    arrests or convictions?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Then don't be a fat ass and try to fight the cops. On top of being a criminal.
    You and I are clearly watched a different video because Garner didn't fight the cops. He refused to speak with the police, that's all he did in this video and witness reports.

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Yes it is.
    No. It isn't, you have a constitutional to not speak to the Police. Refusing to speak to the Police is not probable cause.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    If it's so obvious, tell us.
    Police were called. He was there and part of some melee or fight. Was told to stand down, turn around, and be detained until it was figured out who the bad guys were.
    He got loud and agitated. Bad idea.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Hyperbole.
    Not in the least. You've suggested that stop and frisk is justified because it's effective - putting aside that there's really no evidence of that for the moment. Whether or not a technique is effective is the only the only, or even the most important, concern.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    This is a textbook example of the strawman argument. He wasn't killed for selling loose cigarettes. Stop intentionally spreading misinformation. He was accosted in the manner he was, allegedly, for resisting arrest.

    That being said, in this instance, I don't buy that either, but the notion that he was killed for selling loose cigarettes is irresponsible hyperbole.


    Then why pray tell were they all on about the cigarettes? what was the "Reasonable suspicion" and of what "crime"?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    You and I are clearly watched a different video because Garner didn't fight the cops. He refused to speak with the police, that's all he did in this video and witness reports.



    No. It isn't, you have a constitutional to not speak to the Police. Refusing to speak to the Police is not probable cause.
    Then don't expect for them to treat you with kid gloves.
    No speak, fine. Cuffed until we find out who called and why and if you are part of the issue. Still wont talk, you are obstructing. To jail you go.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What... behavior....!?!?! Selling bootleg cigarettes? Good grief, you painted Clive Bundy's case as a struggle for his ancestral rights when what the case was about was unpaid millions in taxes. Now you're sitting here telling us people need to be held accountable? Are you trying to make so many bull**** arguments people just write your opinion off?
    Given their highly subjective standards, Cliven Bundy should have been boot stomped to death years ago.

    29 cent tax versus millions of dollars owed to the american public....


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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Police were called. He was there and part of some melee or fight. Was told to stand down, turn around, and be detained until it was figured out who the bad guys were.
    He got loud and agitated. Bad idea.
    You are now officially lying about what happened. The police approached him about cigarettes. Holy ****, it's in the video and has been admitted to by the police.
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