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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Yea, god forbid we hold citizens accountable for their behavior.
    What was he charged with except not accepting state tyranny by allowing himself to be submissive to an officer who had NO reason to hassle him?

    Do you suggest we, as citizens of the United States, to simply do as we're told whenever an officer gives us an order?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    This is a textbook example of the strawman argument. He wasn't killed for selling loose cigarettes. Stop intentionally spreading misinformation. He was accosted in the manner he was, allegedly, for resisting arrest.

    That being said, in this instance, I don't buy that either, but the notion that he was killed for selling loose cigarettes is irresponsible hyperbole.
    No - its an accurate description of the events.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Stop and frisk. NY had it for years. Lowered crime. You tell me.
    Executing everyone who's ever violated a law would also reduce crime. Is that acceptable as well? What's that old saying about ends justifying the means.

    And stop and frisk may not have had anything to do with it considering that

    a) crime was dropping nationwide at the time and,
    b) stop and frisk was largely an ineffective way of catching people - less than 10% of those stops ended in an arrest.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Looking at the video many time I have one question; why did the criminal refuse to cooperate with the police? Caught red handed he lifts his arms saying waddup dudes? then he places both hands on his hips sending another message of defiance. Resist the cops and you will pay.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    If only Eric Garner had decided to argue that he had a right to sell cigarettes because of ancestral rights. Maybe CRUE CAB would be defending him instead.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Executing everyone who's ever violated a law would also reduce crime. Is that acceptable as well? What's that old saying about ends justifying the means.

    And stop and frisk may not have had anything to do with it considering that

    a) crime was dropping nationwide at the time and,
    b) stop and frisk was largely an ineffective way of catching people - less than 10% of those stops ended in an arrest.
    Hyperbole.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    What was he charged with except not accepting state tyranny by allowing himself to be submissive to an officer who had NO reason to hassle him?

    Do you suggest we, as citizens of the United States, to simply do as we're told whenever an officer gives us an order?
    No reason? Really?

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The full video has been posted in this thread, numerous times.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What... behavior....!?!?! Selling bootleg cigarettes? Good grief, you painted Clive Bundy's case as a struggle for his ancestral rights when what the case was about was unpaid millions in taxes. Now you're sitting here telling us people need to be held accountable? Are you trying to make so many bull**** arguments people just write your opinion off?
    Two different issues.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    As stated before, it was and improper choke hold. Watch the video, his cries are muffled at best, it isn't until he manages to get the hold loosened is he able to shout louder. (His problem breathing would have been aggravated by his weight, and asthma.)
    Then don't be a fat ass and try to fight the cops. On top of being a criminal.

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