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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Was it arrest or detainment.


    I agree with your sentiment, that nor every case is abuse. brown wasn't, this was.
    It was 'arrest' the moment he decided he wasnt going to be arrested OR detained.

    Look...the facts are what they are. The police arrested him. He resisted. They took him down and cuffed him. He died because he was morbidly obese and had associated health concerns, not because he was arrested and not because he was choked to death. Whether people agree the charges were substantiated or not is really not relevant. Lots of people are pulled over and dont agree with the ticket they are given and they fight and win. Hell...I've won ticket challenges in court. There is a right way and wrong way to do it. One way possibly results in a win. The other way is almost certain to end as a loss...even if the charges are unfounded.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    People are weak now a days. They think they are entitled to "special" treatment. Even after 30 arrests.
    What special treatment was he looking for? By all accounts he wasn't breaking any laws and was tired of being hassled. Should he have just shut up and complied? Absolutely. On the other hand the cops absolutely could've handled it much better.

    And his 30 priors were all low level BS. The dude was not a drug kingpin. Just a schmuck trying to earn a couple of extra bucks at the margins for what's essentially a victimless crime.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    As I understand it, the police were enforcing the civil tax law because these were untaxed cigarettes he was selling. I'm guessing NYC would have saved a lot of money by just letting him sell his cigarettes.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Depends on where and how it's applied. And compromising breathing doesn't necessarily have to result in death. Can it? Sure it can.
    Then yes, choking someone is lethal.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    So for you then it is Too Big To Fail and Too Fat to Be Arrested.

    Understood.

    Place your anger in the tax revolt. Join your local TEA Party and begin to do some good where you live.
    No one with any sense wants to join the Tea-baggers.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    Then yes, choking someone is lethal.
    If you want to define it as lethal in all instances because it can be lethal in some then yes. But then so would punching someone in the face. Or shoving someone.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He wasn't killed intentionally. i.e. he wasn't executed
    It was uncalled for and negligent, and the officer should be charged accordingly.

    Cops shouldn't have a different set of laws....that is not the kind of country we want to have....
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yup justifies killing someone by choking them to death, by using a banned chokehold on someone.
    What part about resisting arrest don't you get.....the chokehold is not illegal.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Yea, god forbid we hold citizens accountable for their behavior.
    What... behavior....!?!?! Selling bootleg cigarettes? Good grief, you painted Clive Bundy's case as a struggle for his ancestral rights when what the case was about was unpaid millions in taxes. Now you're sitting here telling us people need to be held accountable? Are you trying to make so many bull**** arguments people just write your opinion off?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    When the cops tackle and choke an unarmed black man for not paying 5 cent taxes on his cigarette singles, that form of government tyranny is okay for some conservatives.
    That's utterly asinine even for your posting standards.
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