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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I don't think he realizes that pointing to the 31 grievious offences of - wait for it - .... selling bootleg smokes - doesn't make Erick Gardner the evil criminal they want him to be. For all intents and purposes he was a guy in NYC trying to make some money in the same way tens of thousands of NYers do. He didn't deserve to be attacked like a violent thug for it. But that is the MO these days and to some extent they have an interest in keeping it that way. Person is killed by police? Every supposed crime they've ever committed comes out of the woodwork to paint them as criminal.

    As an example, in Orange County California a young man (Kelly Thomas) with mental illness was beaten viciously by police and died a few days later from his injuries. When that incident came to light, some of the same people justifying this - went to that thread and started talking about how he'd assaulted someone years earlier, how he was a danger to society. Never you mind that one of the cops who beat Kelly could be heard saying that he intended to inflict harm on Kelly.

    That's what is happening here. A person was attacked by police officers, because he wasn't as compliant as they'd want him to be and he lost his life for it. That person lost his life because of policies which the NYPD has banned and over the supposed crime of not enjoying being bullied for bull**** crimes. Some of the small government, armchair constitutionality scholars are coming out to defend the actions and attack Garner because what? He stood up to the bull**** bullying from some of the NYPD's finest?


    I sure hope I never get another beatdown by a cop, the would all crucify me for my past... lol.



    you are right, dude was selling loosies. technically not even a crime in NY. for that.... well lets look.


    "“I became a police officer to help people and to protect those who can’t protect themselves. It is never my intention to harm anyone and I feel very bad about the death of Mr. Garner. My family and I include him and his family in our prayers and I hope that they will accept my personal condolences for their loss,” Pantaleo said in a statement, according to NBC New York’s Steven Bognar"


    Garner was protected and helped the **** out of I would say.



    I think the winds of change are on the horizon, with body cameras being rolled out and citizens videoing the poiice (most often to thier dismay), that this can't keep going on.

    The new videos that come out daily will eventually overwhelm the people and the police will be forced aways from it's warrior cop back to the citizen officer they should be.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I love how people who pretend to believe in liberty and freedom voice opinions aligning them with the virtues of a police state.
    Still at it? Why is is that you despise justice?

    What is it about civilians being in control of the government's ability to prosecute people, part of the tradition of a free people that is intended to prevent a police state, that has you confused?

    I will be back on in a few weeks. Read a little about the history of grand juries so your disgust for liberty and justice keeps fresh.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    The officers had no way of knowing that the force would be lethal.
    Are you suggesting that a Police Officer didn't know cutting air off from someone wouldn't be lethal? You do understand what a chokehold is, right?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Boo hoo, I was harassed every time I pulled out of my drive when I was young. Funny though, I didn't get choked out.


    lol, you must not have antagonized him enough, I got clubbed by a bunch of philly cops back in the day for the crime of "loitering" at a bus stop. (waiting for a bus).
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    If this dude had been a white guy wearing a short sleeve dress shirt and tie, sporting a young republican haircut, the right wingers here would be screaming for the cops hide.


    WRONG !!

    Racism is a narrative almost exclusively relied upon by left wingers.

    A desperate attempt to shore up empty arguments by injecting irrelevant manufactured narratives is something Righties have to do.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    Are you suggesting that a Police Officer didn't know cutting air off from someone wouldn't be lethal? You do understand what a chokehold is, right?
    Point of order, if you are shouting "i cant breath" you are actually breathing, the "choke hold" that he had on Garner is supposed to cut off blood supply, it was applied wrong, and was simply a hold actually, it was the 4 other cops compressing his chest from his back with thier knees that was causing garner his breathing problems.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Did you ever asked them if they thought you were a coward? That would explain why they'd keep coming back to harass you. They probably thought you'd allow the harassment without complaining.



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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Race is irrelevant in this case imo.

    The choke hold is not even the issue actually


    The fact that the cops end up killing a dude over selling bootleg cigarettes is what we all should be outraged over.
    Do you think it's a good idea to start communicating to people that, as long as they resist enough and the charge is minor enough (as determined by I'm not sure who), cops'll just give up and walk away?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Do you think it's a good idea to start communicating to people that, as long as they resist enough and the charge is minor enough (as determined by I'm not sure who), cops'll just give up and walk away?


    I think if we, the people show outrage that someone is attacked, and wrassled to the ground over suspicion of selling loosies to the point of death, that policies would be changed.


    Cops never should have put themsleves in a position where they "should have walked away".
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Police officers are supposed to be professionals, not have knee jerk reactions to citizens having enough with their harassment.


    They're supposed to do their jobs.

    Honestly, there are ways ( safe ways ) to address harassment. Resisting is NOT a effective way to deal with harassment.


    That is if its actually occurring and isn't being used as a excuse for some dude that simply doesn't feel like going to jail that day.

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