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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yea, telling a Officer" everytime you see me you try to arrest me, It stops today " is a sure fire way to get yourself arrested.

    He effectively communicated to the Officers that there was going to be a confrontation.

    Police officers are supposed to be professionals, not have knee jerk reactions to citizens having enough with their harassment.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Link to the now "31" times.
    I don't think he realizes that pointing to the 31 grievious offences of - wait for it - .... selling bootleg smokes - doesn't make Erick Gardner the evil criminal they want him to be. For all intents and purposes he was a guy in NYC trying to make some money in the same way tens of thousands of NYers do. He didn't deserve to be attacked like a violent thug for it. But that is the MO these days and to some extent they have an interest in keeping it that way. Person is killed by police? Every supposed crime they've ever committed comes out of the woodwork to paint them as criminal.

    As an example, in Orange County California a young man (Kelly Thomas) with mental illness was beaten viciously by police and died a few days later from his injuries. When that incident came to light, some of the same people justifying this - went to that thread and started talking about how he'd assaulted someone years earlier, how he was a danger to society. Never you mind that one of the cops who beat Kelly could be heard saying that he intended to inflict harm on Kelly.

    That's what is happening here. A person was attacked by police officers, because he wasn't as compliant as they'd want him to be and he lost his life for it. That person lost his life because of policies which the NYPD has banned and over the supposed crime of not enjoying being bullied for bull**** crimes. Some of the small government, armchair constitutionality scholars are coming out to defend the actions and attack Garner because what? He stood up to the bull**** bullying from some of the NYPD's finest?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    yes, they decided to harrass a citizen they have had run-ins with before. In this case he had broken up a fight and they used it as an opportunity to harrass him again.

    The video shows this, clearly
    Boo hoo, I was harassed every time I pulled out of my drive when I was young. Funny though, I didn't get choked out.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    He seems to have just been standing there and there does not appear to be any cigs on his person! They said that he had just broken up a fight.
    Then decided to resist detainment.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

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    Authoritarian statists

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Yet Misterveritis dares brand those who disagree with him "statists."
    You get that moniker when it is clear it applies. I do not believe I have mentioned statism or authoritarian statism in this thread. There have been a few who see this as an opportunity to nationalize the local police to keep injustices from ever happening. Those fools are authoritarian statists. It is not your disagreements that get you the title. It is your beliefs, desires, and goals.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Murder apologist.
    Funny, I guess juries and courts don't mean anything any more. LOL Don't be a criminal and cops wont treat you like one.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Boo hoo, I was harassed every time I pulled out of my drive when I was young. Funny though, I didn't get choked out.
    Did you ever asked them if they thought you were a coward? That would explain why they'd keep coming back to harass you. They probably thought you'd allow the harassment without complaining.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I don't think he realizes that pointing to the 31 grievious offences of - wait for it - .... selling bootleg smokes - doesn't make Erick Gardner the evil criminal they want him to be. For all intended purposes he was a guy in NYC trying to make some money in the same way tens of thousands of NYers do. He didn't deserve to be attacked like a violent thug for it. But that is the MO these days and to some extent they have an interest in keeping it that way. Person is killed by police? Every supposed crime they've ever committed comes out of the woodwork to paint them as criminal.

    As an example, in Orange County California a young man (Kelly Thomas) with mental illness was beaten viciously by police and died a few days later from his injuries. When that incident came to light, some of the same people justifying this - went to that thread and started talking about how he'd assaulted someone years earlier, how he was a danger to society. Never you mind that one of the cops who beat Kelly could be heard saying that he intended to inflict harm on Kelly.

    That's what is happening here. A person was attacked by police officers, because he wasn't as compliant as they'd want him to be and he lost his life for it. That person lost his life because of policies which the NYPD has banned and over the supposed crime of not enjoying being bullied for bull**** crimes. Some of the small government, armchair constitutionality scholars are coming out to defend the actions and attack Garner because what? He stood up to the bull**** bullying from some of the NYPD's finest?
    If this dude had been a white guy wearing a short sleeve dress shirt and tie, sporting a young republican haircut, the right wingers here would be screaming for the cops hide.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    I think it most states a reckless disregard for the person's life is all that is required for manslaughter with or without intention to do harm.

    I'm just posting the LEGAL Definition of Manslaughter.

    If they didn't indict him for manslaughter it tells me that NYs definition is in line with the Definition I posted.

    Also, a LEO struggling with a resisting non-compliant suspect does not constitute a reckless disregard of that person's life.

    The vast majority of resisting suspects can and DO survive being forcibly taken into custody.


    But imagine if that were the case. That Police Officers were no longer allowed to use force to take in a suspect that was non compliant.

    Anyone and everyone could simply tell a Police Officer " F-u, don't touch me , I'm not going anywhere with you ".

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