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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Not even remotely trying to impress you. Hell...you were the one spewing your mock bravado. I want you to make sure if you ever are in a situation where you are going to resist arrest, please make sure you have someone film it and post it for us...okay?
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You know what you cant do when you are being choked? Shout "I cant breathe! I cant breathe!"

    He wasnt being choked. He may have been in cardiac arrest because of his lack of conditioning and physical exertion but he wasnt being choked.

    You know how NONE of this happens? He doesnt resist arrest. I know you dont like to hear it, but when a cop has observed what they believe to be a criminal act that warrants arrest, you are going to be arrested.
    Actually it is possible to still use your vocal cords if someone is applying a blood constricting choke. But the fact that the cop choked him is undeniable. Its very clear because his arm was around his neck and squeezing.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Being part of a gang that is assaulting someone doesn't make you a man. It makes you a thug and an idiot.
    Alrighty then.

    But hey...I'm serious about that video thing, OK?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Jesus...
    They have no shame. None.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Actually it is possible to still use your vocal cords if someone is applying a blood constricting choke. But the fact that the cop choked him is undeniable. Its very clear because his arm was around his neck and squeezing.
    Watch the video. When he is shouting he cant breathe, no one is applying a choke hold. The choke hold was in place for about 8 seconds while he was taken to the ground. After he was on the ground, the officer in the sports shirt moved his weight to the mans shoulders and held his head down. Thats when he started complaining that he couldnt breathe. That would happen if an extremely overweight and out of shape individual overexerted himself.

    Good rule of thumb...dont resist arrest and bad **** like this doesnt happen.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Doesn't look like they tried to hurt him. Looks like they tried to tackle him and make the arrest, which is what they are supposed to do when someone resists arrest.

    It's not their job to negotiate with the guy. If he really didn't do anything wrong, the place to have that debate is at the police station.
    Bull****. The first cop in immediately went to the chokehold. "Not trying to hurt him" my left nut.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You know what you cant do when you are being choked? Shout "I cant breathe! I cant breathe!"

    He wasnt being choked. He may have been in cardiac arrest because of his lack of conditioning and physical exertion but he wasnt being choked.

    You know how NONE of this happens? He doesnt resist arrest. I know you dont like to hear it, but when a cop has observed what they believe to be a criminal act that warrants arrest, you are going to be arrested.
    You didn't want the video to what happens physiologically posted earlier on this thread, did you? Including to breathing and the heart.

    And, once again, you - like the DA - wanted it only considered as absolutes. Murder. Or nothing.

    They should do that for traffic tickets too. If you are stopped for speeding, unless they can prove you murdered someone by your speeding the ticket it dismissed.

    Jumping him by surprise from behind with a choke hold was a violent assault. That's illegal too. But the GJ was given only murder/manslaughter or nothing to pick from.

    You left off the last part of your last sentence, didn't you? "...you are going to be arrested or killed trying."

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You didn't want the video to what happens physiologically posted earlier on this thread, did you? Including to breathing and the heart.

    And, once again, you - like the DA - wanted it only considered as absolutes. Murder. Or nothing.

    They should do that for traffic tickets too. If you are stopped for speeding, unless they can prove you murdered someone by your speeding the ticket it dismissed.

    Jumping him by surprise from behind with a choke hold was a violent assault. That's illegal too. But the GJ was given only murder/manslaughter or nothing to pick from.

    You left off the last part of your last sentence, didn't you? "...you are going to be arrested or killed trying."
    Oh sweet baby geeeezus. "Jumping him by surprise from behind with a choke hold was a violent assault"


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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Alrighty then.

    But hey...I'm serious about that video thing, OK?
    Just call your gang of idiots. Aren't you buddies with them? Oh right, only prison guards that rape dudes are you buddies with. Well, don't call those guys. I just want physically assaulted. Keep your sexual assault prison guard buddies in prison, thanks.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I said "swatted" not smacked. And yes he did. First he stood there and argued with them. He started backing up from them and swatted at them to push them away as they tried to arrest him.
    Yes it is illegal in NYC to use the chokehold. The officer was stripped of his badge and gun for that action.
    And for your information, the one that filmed the video that has gone viral was Garner's friend, Ramsey Orta.

    "The man who recorded a New York City police officer using a chokehold during the arrest of a man who later died in custody was arrested himself late Saturday on a gun charge.

    Ramsey Orta, 22, is charged with two counts of criminal possession of a weapon. Police said Orta had a previous weapon conviction that prohibited him from possessing a firearm. He is due in court this month on robbery charges stemming from a May arrest and an assault charge from an arrest July 14, according to court records."

    Man who recorded video of NYPD chokehold arrested on gun charge | Fox News

    Garner nor his friend that filmed the video are/were law abiding citizens.
    Thus, they deserve death.
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