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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The coroner ruling it a homicide is very relevant. It means the coroner ruled he didn't die of natural or health causes. It means he was killed by one or more other people. The question, then is 1.) is the coroner correct and if so 2.) was the killing an illegal act?
    Nope. Doesn't mean that at all. Just means he didn't die of natural causes. His being overweight contributed to why he died while being restrained.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    You have made this claim several times. Do you have a link to show it is against the law?
    Did you catch tres borrachos reply to me in regard to the first time you asked me the same question?

    "Originally Posted by tres borracho

    It isn't illegal. It was banned by the NYPD.

    (Info just fed to me by Mr. B who called his sister's husband who just retired after 17 years with NYPD) - please confirm on internet if this info is false. My BIL said people who keep calling it "illegal" are wrong, it's not "illegal" just prohibited by the NYPD."
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    I found an archived article from the NYT verifying the department banned chokeholds in 1993.
    Kelly Bans Choke Holds By Officers - NYTimes.com

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    For the cigarette? It did not look like it. Should this death be chalked up to tobacco?
    The next time anyone hands you a cigarette, just remember those things'll kill you.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Just posted below that I had my husband chokehold me for a few seconds. i couldn't utter a sound because there was no air to pull in and i had exhaled before. yes he was getting air in that hold. not that I think it was right but it wasn't cutting off his breathing.
    The damage from a choke hold doesnt come from lack of air. It comes from restricting bloodflow to the brain. Its actually very very h ard to cut off the windpipe and totally negate breathing. Chokes should only be used in life threatening situations. PERIOD.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    I love the judgment of his supposed smoking habit and weight on this thread. I'm sure the people doing the judging are the picture of perfect health, too! Daily exercise, bi-yearly check ups, good diet...LOL
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    He died because his heart stopped, not because he couldn't breath. Now, choking him was a likely factor in his heart stopping...stress kills fat people. It's a fact.


    Also a fact?


    Resisting arrest, no matter the offense, can, and likely WILL, result in violence, and a continuing escalation of such until either all of them, or you, are dead. There is no other option.


    Cops should, what? Let unhealthy people go? Sit around for five hours trying to reason with unreasonable people? Cops get paid by the hour, folks. Should they negotiate with the people they intend to arrest? "Oh, sorry, sir, you DON'T want these cuffs? Well, I'll tell you what...you don't tell anyone about this, and I'll just let you right on in the back of my car, ok? Just for you."



    Here's the facts. This guy clearly broke a rule, no matter how insignificant. He was placed under arrest for the, what, 30th time? He resisted. He did not comply with the orders issued him by the arresting officer. The officer then proceeded to use force, to which, he resisted that as well. The force escalated. Again, what you want the cops to do? Apologize? Let him go? But only those that REALLY don't want to get arrested, and only if it's not a serious crime?

    You have a problem with the law he broke, take that up with those that write them, and more importantly, those that vote in those that write them...not the people charged with enforcing them.
    They could have wrestled with him until he was pacified. Seeing as he never tried to hurt anyone. But instead 1 cop chose to use a lethal move and all the other cops let him. Too bad this guy wasnt here to save him.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    They could have wrestled with him until he was pacified. Seeing as he never tried to hurt anyone. But instead 1 cop chose to use a lethal move and all the other cops let him. Too bad this guy wasnt here to save him.
    Why'd he tackle that cop? That eye gouge tho...
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Obesity isn't punishable by death.
    It kinda sorta is. Carrying around two hundred pounds of fat does tend to kill the fat one.

    You want to justify the killing of someone over something so freaking petty.
    Can you show me where I have justified killing someone?

    You are using obesity as your cognitive dissonance. You are the one blood dancing here and praising the actions of an overactive police using deadly force for a silly thing that should be no more than a summons.
    Blood dancing? Cool. If I search for it on Youtube will I find some "killer moves"?

    I did not see anyone using deadly force. Apparently no one on the Grand Jury saw what you saw either. Maybe you need to volunteer to be on a local grand jury so you are more familiar with how it works.

    A common criminal who also happened to be a fatass resisted arrest, got all excited and had a heart attack. That is a shame. But it is not a crime.

    Sounds like you are the one licking the jackboots.
    You lack imagination and probably wisdom. The Grand Jury system was devised so that ordinary citizens, drawn from local communities, could decide who faces trial by the government. So you disagree with a grand jury's results. Who cares. It does not have to be a perfect system in order to be an effective system.

    You need to find a better victim.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Perhaps they simply gave him that final helping hand.


    That is an extremely stupid remark!

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Didn't he weigh (live weight) about 400 pounds? And he was resisting arrest. And now you are wondering why several police officers chose to help to get him on the ground and under control?

    Dead he probably weighed less.
    Screaming "I can't breathe" isn't a clue to you or the cop who killed him?
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