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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Not according to the corner, it was ruled homicide.
    Dude, stop spreading misinformation. When a coroner rules something a homicide, it just means the person didn't die of natural causes. He didn't slip off a bridge, die in his sleep, or take too many pills.

    A coroner's job is just to give a scientific opinion as to the cause of death. We can clearly see in the video that the altercation lead to his death. It's not the coroner's job to determine whether there was malice involved which would be necessary for an indictment.

    That's the job of the grand jury.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    In this article discussing the low return on investment of CPR, it has these statistics:

    Those are solid enough for me. And in those cases, they were performed by bystanders who probably have received little to no training. Obviously technique is important:

    I'm sorry, but I'm going to remain pro-CPR.
    From my training from some time ago I was going to say less than 4% survive under the best of circumstances. A four hundred pounder is not likely to survive a heart attack. Plus he might have carried some exotic disease. At least mouth to mouth is discouraged now.

    Oh, in my one real event the man died. I think he was dead before I turned him over. There was no there, there, in his eyes. Fortunately EMT arrived before I started mouth to mouth. From the time I saw him drop to their arrival was less than a couple of minutes. He weighed at least half again more than me.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    From my training from some time ago I was going to say less than 4% survive under the best of circumstances. A four hundred pounder is not likely to survive a heart attack. Plus he might have carried some exotic disease. At least mouth to mouth is discouraged now.
    What exotic disease? Tell us.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    No. It actually isn't. It is beyond time for you to join your locale TEA party and help with the tax revolt. You can recognize us. We are friendly and we pick up our trash.
    Bundy doesn't pay his taxes, he is a welfare queen. Why isn't he placed in a chokehold?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    It isn't illegal. It was banned by the NYPD.

    (Info just fed to me by Mr. B who called his sister's husband who just retired after 17 years with NYPD) - please confirm on internet if this info is false. My BIL said people who keep calling it "illegal" are wrong, it's not "illegal" just prohibited by the NYPD.
    Thanks Tres In some places on the internet it was being reported it was banned in NYC others said illegal. And in some places where it was being reported that way have since removed it.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Obesity isn't punishable by death.

    You want to justify the killing of someone over something so freaking petty.

    You are using obesity as your cognitive dissonance. You are the one blood dancing here and praising the actions of an overactive police using deadly force for a silly thing that should be no more than a summons.

    Sounds like you are the one licking the jackboots.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    "Members of the New York City Police Department will NOT use chokeholds. A chokehold shall include, but is not limited to, any pressure to the throat or windpipe, which may prevent or hinder breathing or reduce intake of air...

    ...If a person appears to be having difficulty breathing or is otherwise demonstrating life-threatening symptoms, medical assistance will be requested IMMEDIATELY." (NYPD Patrol Guide, 203-11, emphasis in original)


    All you folks who stick up for the cops because they were arresting someone for doing something wrong....but you seem to conveniently forget that the cops were breaking their own rules.

    Hypocrisy......
    WE understand it is against their policy. And the one who used it will probably face discipline.

    Can you do a bit more research and show that it is a crime?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    After my unsuccessful efforts at elbow licking I actually had my husband just do this (he thinks I'm nuts, but did it anyway). He didn't do it really hard either obviously. I actually couldn't get any statements out. When I couldn't breathe in, there was nothing to expend out. Granted he probably didn't do it the same way as what happened to this guy but no I wasn't able to speak. I had to stomp my foot. Now I'm dizzy too.
    I am pretty sure I would still like you dizzy.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    There was no way for police officers to know that an morbidly obese older man was not physically fit enough to be tackled by multiple men, chocked and his head pressed into the concrete - and his saying he couldn't breathe certainly could be considered merely a tactical lie by the man hoping to make a counter attack. (that's a sneering statement).

    What is MOST important is his 6 children and grandchildren are explained how evil and stupid their father was and why he had to die, which really their father deciding to commit suicide by cop.

    Would it fair to estimate his child and his wife will hate all police officers down to the marrow of their bones for the rest of their lives?

    This shouldn't have happened. Murder? No. Off the charts? Absolutely.

    However, there is the police union, so even discipline strictly prohibited.

    The man's mistake - if he was selling one cigarette at a time where they are taxed to the point to being only a rich man's luxury in NYC - was he tried to earn a living. Really, he should have been collecting disability and staying home - unless out protesting for more benefits.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Some people have always done what they shouldn't do.

    Why did the cop use an illegal choke-hold and why did the grand jury give him a pass?
    Would you please point to the law that shows us that this hold was illegal? Many have stated it. At least one of you, between eye-rolls, should provide the link to the relevant statute.

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