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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Sunny Hostin, a black woman prosecutor who's commenting on CNN now on this issue, just made an interesting comment.

    She said she's been on the side of the push for cops to be outfitted with cameras so that when incidents happen there can be video of the events that courts and grand juries can see what happened and now we have this incident, fully videoed by a bystander, and it seems to have been irrelevant to the outcome of the grand jury.

    True, however this is one case, in other municipalities its reduced claims of police brutality by 88%+
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I appreciate what you're saying, but it still bothers me. This isn't a man that was physically hurting or threatening anyone, from what I can tell - he was basically committing a crime against the tax collectors. This isn't a man who was abusing or threatening the life of a police officer - the only time the officers would be threatened or subjected to bodily harm is when they enforced an arrest. As I mentioned earlier, why isn't this just the issuance of a summons and not an arrest? That's a big issue for me.
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    When was the last time five officers went in to a fancy office and wrestled the occupant to the ground for the crime of having underpaid his taxes?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It's not hard for me to understand that obese people shouldn't even SLEEP on their stomach. I'd venture that his obesity contributed more than the chokehold to his demise. Chest compression is a physics law.


    especially when you are being choked out and a few knees are on your back.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Why do you bother to post messages that exactly 100% of everyone knows is 100% false and 100% show that your message is absolutely without intellectual integrity.

    Exactly NO ONE claims Michael Brown was "a gentle giant."

    Who are you trying to persuade, yourself?
    Educate yourself - I'm not going to waste my time goggling examples of people who referred to Michael Brown as a gentle giant.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    What should the police have done instead? Said, "well, since you don't want to be arrested I guess you can break the law" and walk away?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Why do you bother to post messages that exactly 100% of everyone knows is 100% false and 100% show that your message is absolutely without intellectual integrity.

    Exactly NO ONE claims Michael Brown was "a gentle giant."

    Who are you trying to persuade, yourself?
    Michael Brown remembered as a 'gentle giant' : News

    and about a thousand other links, do you really want to dispute that's how Brown was/is still characterized?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Deliberate mischaracterization of events and what I posted or do you really think that way, omitting facts in evidence?

    There are a few things I would change generally about standard police procedure in most departments. The knee on the head and neck followed by "stop resisting" when the arrestee is just squirming in pain. I find that a bridge too far.

    But here you have a very, very unhealthy individual with a long history of the exact same crime being rightfully taken into custody and resisting with all his bulk.



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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Non-compliant, and the only threat there were the cops.




    They knew him, knew where he lived, in the "War against bootleg cigarattes" he was no kingpin.


    Unneeded enforcement resulted in this mans death by the guy with the sucky choke hold.
    The arrest is consistent with the "Broken Windows" theory of law enforcement. The basic idea is that if you take care of the small things then the big things will be less likely to happen.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm not sure which cop you're referring to.
    The choke hold cop...
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    If a person can say "I can't breathe" that means the person is NOT being chocked. It would more likely indicate 1.) a heart problem 2.) a lung problem or 3.) being crushed.

    It would NOT indicate being chocked. If a person is chocking the person is unable to speak (obviously).

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